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impala454
post May 15 2007, 11:42 AM
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A couple of recent happenings spurred this topic. Curious what you guys think.

#1- http://www.khou.com/news/local/galveston/s...y.6f97d768.html
A teacher in a Clear Creek ISD high school showed Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth" to her class. I heard this on the radio and one of the parents had called in, she said it was explained to her that the relevance of the movie to the ALGEBRA class it was shown in was the "charts & graphs" depicted in the movie. Pretty friggin pathetic if you ask me. There's no excuse for this kind of crap, and nothing to gain by it.

#2- http://www.kentucky.com/476/story/68870.html
A substitute teacher showed Brokeback Mountain to an 8th grade class.
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The substitute asked a student to shut the classroom door at the West Side school, saying: "What happens in Ms. Buford's class stays in Ms. Buford's class," according to the lawsuit.

All I got to say is.. WTF
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post May 16 2007, 08:09 PM
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I suppose I can see why people wouldn't want an inconvenient truth shown in the classroom.

As for Brokeback Mountain, I don't see what the big deal is. It's just a little sex and not very graphic sex at that. 12-13 is the age kids start developing sexually, so that's the best time for them to be exposed to it.


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post May 16 2007, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE (pebkac @ May 16 2007, 09:09 PM) *
I suppose I can see why people wouldn't want an inconvenient truth shown in the classroom.

As for Brokeback Mountain, I don't see what the big deal is. It's just a little sex and not very graphic sex at that. 12-13 is the age kids start developing sexually, so that's the best time for them to be exposed to it.

QUOTE (pebkac @ May 16 2007, 09:09 PM) *
I suppose I can see why people wouldn't want an inconvenient truth shown in the classroom.

As for Brokeback Mountain, I don't see what the big deal is. It's just a little sex and not very graphic sex at that. 12-13 is the age kids start developing sexually, so that's the best time for them to be exposed to it.

Yeah, but if it were shown it should be shown in the proper context with a full explanation from someone. That is a tender age for kids. I'm sure there are a lot of kids that have been raised by their parents to be homophobic, so those kids will be cracking jokes, insulting gays, etc. If a young kid is watching the movie and thinks he might be gay, he's going to either be forced into the closet for a long time for fear of being hated or his self esteem is going to plummet. I'm not against introducing homosexual material into the classroom, but I don't know if a fictional movie with as much hype built around it and set in the old west is the best way to do it.


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post May 16 2007, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 16 2007, 09:13 PM) *
Yeah, but if it were shown it should be shown in the proper context with a full explanation from someone. That is a tender age for kids. I'm sure there are a lot of kids that have been raised by their parents to be homophobic, so those kids will be cracking jokes, insulting gays, etc. If a young kid is watching the movie and thinks he might be gay, he's going to either be forced into the closet for a long time for fear of being hated or his self esteem is going to plummet. I'm not against introducing homosexual material into the classroom, but I don't know if a fictional movie with as much hype built around it and set in the old west is the best way to do it.


The day those kids can grow up without ever having to hear those kinds of jokes will be a great day for all of man kind. As it is though, young gay kids learn at a very young age that there are people out there that don't like them because of their sexuality.

I will grant you that there are much better gay movies out there (I recommend Dorian Blues to anyone who hasn't seen it ), but I think Brokeback mountain would still be a decent choice. I mean, it deals with two people who have gay feelings but still try to act the way that society expects them. And that's something that a lot of kids that age can relate to whether or not it's because they're gay.


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post May 16 2007, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE (pebkac @ May 16 2007, 09:28 PM) *
The day those kids can grow up without ever having to hear those kinds of jokes will be a great day for all of man kind.

and this is the kind of opinion that further pussifies the young people of our country. the idea nowadays seems to be, lets not teach our kids to deal with adversity, lets not let them get in fights at school, lets not spank them that's too harsh, lets not keep score we don't want them to get upset if they lose. it doesn't have to do with gays. kids make jokes in school. they're KIDS. they'll make fun of the fat kids, they'll make fun of the skinny kids, they'll make fun of the short kids, they'll make fun of the clef-palette kids, they'll make fun of the wheelchair kids, they'll make fun of anything, any race, any color, any accent. about any kid. if we can't teach our young population to deal with these kinds of pressures, we'll have the 100% pussification of an entire generation of americans.

as far as showing movies goes, most parents have a certain level of morals & virtues they teach their kids. /gasp RULES even. a teacher at a public school shouldn't be undermining the parents ability to raise their kids how they see fit.
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- impala454   Movies in the classroom   May 15 2007, 11:42 AM
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