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post Apr 20 2007, 11:41 AM
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windows vista is the equivalent of windows ME

a big bloated useless piece of shitty broken software rushed out the door

since i work for mcafee, i say get mcafee virus scanner (not free though)
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post Apr 20 2007, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE (Overlord @ Apr 20 2007, 01:24 PM) *
1. Memory footprint is massive, Vista is usable on 1GB but realistically to get anything done you need 2GB

I agree 100% on a fresh install right out of the box. But, exactly like windows xp's release, it took some tweaking and turning off of un-necessary features to make it hum. I think you'd notice it gets much lighter on its feet if you take a few minutes to tweak it.

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2. UAC is a royal pain in the ass, poorly implemented and poorly thought out

agreed, but easily turned off with a couple of clicks.

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3. Game performance is sub-optimal, below that of games on XP especially games that are memory intensive. (see first bullet point)

all games are memory intensive. I honestly can't say i've noticed this at all.

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4. User interface is poorly thought out, for example..
- Flip 3D obscures the windows you're trying to switch between therefore being all but useless.

I find it pretty useless as well, but I don't see how this means the OS is broken or bloated.

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- Vista's control panel is a mess, good luck trying to find the settings you want.

it's just different than you're used to. you can set it back to the old way if you want. and how would you arrange it to improve it?

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- Sidebar and "gadgets" is very poorly done and thought out. For example, the clock gadget uses up significant processor time. It just gets in the way.

I haven't seen the clock gadget use up significant processor time. perhaps you can paste your CPU usage or something. anything else besides the clock? i guess clock proc time = "Sidebar and "gadgets" is very poorly done and thought out"

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5. Vista EATS the battery on laptops, whereas with a laptop installed with XP or a Macbook with OS X battery life is significantly better.

it's pretty easy for a macbook with OS X to run better, considering the people who designed the OS had only a miniscule amount of hardware to work around. otherwise, I don't have a laptop so I can't really speak for laptop battery life. Even so, how much difference is it? 50%? 10%?

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6. Network file transfer speeds are horrible in Vista compared to XP

can't say I've noticed this. at least, on transferring large files from a MCE2005 comp to a vista x64 comp. how bad is it for you?

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7. Boot time for my machine has tripled with Vista compared to XP

so, just to guess, your machine went from say... 20-30 second boot, to 1-1.5 minute boot? i'd say you're either being melodramatic or you have something seriously wrong with your comp.

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8. Vista is designed to restrict access to your video and music files,

And that's just a few.

how does it restrict access? i have lots of music and video files and have had no problems accessing any of them.

and by all means, keep listing the probs. I personally went back to xp because there were some x64 driver issues with the USB headset I use. and I'm not saying vista is some grand awesome thing, but I don't think it's as terrible as you're making it out to be. I have only used the x64 version, so maybe it makes some huge difference and that's why I'm not seeing the same things you are.
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- Overlord   Vista   Apr 20 2007, 11:41 AM
- - impala454   whats big and bloated and broken about it?   Apr 20 2007, 12:08 PM
|- - Overlord   QUOTE (impala454 @ Apr 20 2007, 01:08 PM)...   Apr 20 2007, 12:24 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE (Overlord @ Apr 20 2007, 01:24 PM) ...   Apr 20 2007, 01:04 PM
- - Overlord   9. DVD playback in Windows Media Player or Media C...   Apr 20 2007, 01:22 PM
- - impala454   9- haven't watched a dvd in vista, but to me t...   Apr 20 2007, 01:45 PM
- - Overlord   i like how you just dismiss each point without any...   Apr 20 2007, 01:49 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Overlord @ Apr 20 2007, 02:49 PM) ...   Apr 20 2007, 01:56 PM
- - impala454   lol i love how you see this article and take ...   Apr 20 2007, 01:52 PM
- - Overlord   as usual, impala sucking from the teat of microsof...   Apr 20 2007, 01:58 PM
- - impala454   as usual, lance having some personal vendetta agai...   Apr 20 2007, 02:00 PM
- - zetec   QUOTE (Overlord @ Apr 20 2007, 01:24 PM) ...   Apr 20 2007, 04:43 PM
- - schwab   firefox is normal for me on vista   Apr 20 2007, 07:28 PM
- - Rocky   I like how the Vista backlash has many people admi...   Apr 21 2007, 09:15 AM
|- - Overlord   QUOTE (Rocky @ Apr 21 2007, 10:15 AM) I l...   Apr 21 2007, 11:37 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Rocky @ Apr 21 2007, 10:15 AM) I l...   Apr 23 2007, 10:28 AM
- - chook   I used 2000 until 2005. Lance is right with SP2 m...   Apr 21 2007, 01:02 PM
- - Overlord   Good post on slashdot: QUOTE Is Vista in trouble?...   Apr 23 2007, 03:16 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE * Business users hate it. The hardware requi...   Apr 24 2007, 07:51 AM
- - zetec   i stopped reading slashdot. 8 stories a day vs 125...   Apr 23 2007, 03:38 PM
- - Overlord   slashdot posts some stories that the digg bury bri...   Apr 23 2007, 04:09 PM
- - zetec   yeah, the digg mafia has a bit too slim of tastes ...   Apr 23 2007, 11:33 PM
- - jwttu   and why did they change the menus in office 2007, ...   Apr 24 2007, 06:12 AM
- - schwab   anyone know if you can get office 07 from tech?   Apr 24 2007, 08:21 AM
- - impala454   btw just a little tidbit, you can run office 2007 ...   Apr 24 2007, 08:22 AM
- - Hartmann   I have not used Vista past some of the original Lo...   Apr 24 2007, 08:47 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Apr 24 2007, 09:47 AM) ...   Apr 24 2007, 10:15 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (impala454 @ Apr 24 2007, 11:15 AM)...   Apr 24 2007, 10:43 AM
- - Overlord   personally, everyone i know has been switching to ...   Apr 24 2007, 10:23 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Overlord @ Apr 24 2007, 11:23 AM) ...   Apr 24 2007, 02:25 PM
- - Jessica   Im interested in upgrading to Vista, but I dont wa...   Apr 24 2007, 11:14 AM
- - Overlord   due to the DRM included with vista your music file...   Apr 24 2007, 11:22 AM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (Overlord @ Apr 24 2007, 12:22 PM) ...   Apr 24 2007, 11:28 AM
|- - schwab   QUOTE (Overlord @ Apr 24 2007, 12:22 PM) ...   Apr 24 2007, 03:21 PM
- - zetec   MP3s got no drm nor FLAC or OGG lance, wtf you p...   Apr 25 2007, 09:17 AM
- - schwab   the music one is complete crap...im curious if lan...   Apr 25 2007, 09:28 AM
- - zetec   QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 24 2007, 12:28 PM) t...   Apr 25 2007, 09:37 AM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (zetec @ Apr 25 2007, 10:37 AM) yea...   Apr 25 2007, 10:07 AM
- - Jim   Aren't they getting rid of the DRM?   Apr 25 2007, 04:19 PM
- - Overlord   apple is getting rid of the drm in their aac files...   Apr 25 2007, 04:31 PM
- - Jim   And Microsoft turned around and said the same thin...   Apr 25 2007, 04:46 PM
- - zetec   QUOTE (Overlord @ Apr 25 2007, 05:31 PM) ...   Apr 25 2007, 05:04 PM


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