Immigration issues (split from VT thread), guns, etc. Options

[cupcake]

my proposed gun law changes borne from this incident (laws mind you...something criminals disregard):

-U.S. citizenship required for purchase (no 'resident alien' malarkey)

-abolish gun-free zones except for federal and govt properties and airplanes/ports. Place law-abiding conceal/carry permit owners on a level playing field for defense.

unfortunately, however, I feel that will be the opposite of what come of this...leaving law-abiders even more defenseless, eventually creating a population of outlaws carrying whatever/whenever the hell they want...

[kcroxyoursox]

He hardly count as foreign.

He's foreign-born, nothing he could do, no amount of patriotism or way of life and thinking, can change that fact. If I went and lived in Australia for 14 years, I would still be American because I was born in America.

You think you feel weird walking into a Chinese store or a Mexican store, try walking that everyday of your fuckin' life and everywhere else you go.

I find it hard to believe that EVERY SINGLE DAY of your life there's such a cataclysmic event that makes you feel so out of your element.

Who the fuck give you the idea that foreigners are here just to soak up your money and take advantage of America.

maybe, I will take my American education, I will take my Ph.D somewhere else

Do you contradict yourself? Very well, you contradict yourself.

[Inferia]

He's foreign-born, nothing he could do, no amount of patriotism or way of life and thinking, can change that fact. If I went and lived in Australia for 14 years, I would still be American because I was born in America.
I find it hard to believe that EVERY SINGLE DAY of your life there's such a cataclysmic event that makes you feel so out of your element.
Do you contradict yourself? Very well, you contradict yourself.

You're not 8 anymore, dear, it's not the same. How do you know what I feel? And I do not contradict myself. I would like to stay in this country, but people in this country sure as hell do not make it easy. Many people in this country sure as hell make me feel like I'm just soaking in your hard work. And by becoming citizen I will not feel differently, I will still foreign, because people in this country will make me feel foreign till the day I die.

[kcroxyoursox]

You're not 8 anymore, dear, it's not the same.

So age is the deciding factor? If my leaving at 22 makes me an American but him leaving at 8 doesn't make him Korean, what's the magical in between age where that changes? What if I had been 21, 20, 19, 18? What if he had been 9, 10, 11, 12?

How do you know what I feel?

You're right, I don't. But I have a sneaking suspicion if you felt so alienated day in and day out that you wouldn't be so interested in staying here.