Mar 30 2007, 01:14 PM
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Proof of God through modern day reason
Some favorites: QUOTE ARGUMENT FROM MIRACLES (I) (1) My aunt had cancer. (2) The doctors gave her all these horrible treatments. (3) My aunt prayed to God and now she doesn't have cancer. (4) Therefore, God exists. QUOTE ARGUMENT FROM CREATION, a.k.a. ARGUMENT FROM PERSONAL INCREDULITY (I) (1) If evolution is false, then creationism is true, and therefore God exists. (2) Evolution can't be true, since I lack the mental capacity to understand it; moreover, to accept its truth would cause me to be uncomfortable. (3) Therefore, God exists. QUOTE ARGUMENT FROM FEAR (1) If there is no God then we're all going to not exist after we die. (2) I'm afraid of that. (3) Therefore, God exists. QUOTE ARGUMENT FROM THE BIBLE (1) [arbitrary passage from OT] (2) [arbitrary passage from NT] (3) Therefore, God exists. I stopped reading at 40ish though. It starts to get boring. -------------------- ![]() |
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Mar 30 2007, 03:41 PM
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![]() Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
Correct, the existence of god can neither be proven or disproven but I find the rationale in these passages to be true. Belief in god is found through coincidental events in a person's life, which could be taken either as miraculous or not.
I never understood why so many fundamentalist Christians had a problem with evolution anyways. Evolution has nothing to do with how life originated. Instead, it has more to with how life has developed over earth's history. Evolution can exist alongside the belief of a deity and not interfere. Unless, a Christian wants to interpret the bible literally which is silly. Science explains the how and religion/faith explains the why. They CAN be compatible. This post has been edited by Dr. Gonzo: Mar 30 2007, 03:44 PM -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Mar 30 2007, 04:42 PM
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Correct, the existence of god can neither be proven or disproven but I find the rationale in these passages to be true. Belief in god is found through coincidental events in a person's life, which could be taken either as miraculous or not. I never understood why so many fundamentalist Christians had a problem with evolution anyways. Evolution has nothing to do with how life originated. Instead, it has more to with how life has developed over earth's history. Evolution can exist alongside the belief of a deity and not interfere. Unless, a Christian wants to interpret the bible literally which is silly. Science explains the how and religion/faith explains the why. They CAN be compatible. evolution does counter what the Bible says about Creation. The Bible says the earth was created in seven days. Now, if we take that as seven literal days and in those seven days god created birds, reptiles, breathing things, fish, etc then that would go against the idea that we evolved from apes. On the other hand, a minimalist idea of evolution can co-exist with Creation in that yes, things have changed over time. People are bigger. There are more races. Blah blah blah. Core Creationism and Evolution are not compatible. and I swear if Griesux or whatever were to correct my spelling, i think I would snap. That, along with the "your mom" jokes is getting old. |
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Mar 30 2007, 05:52 PM
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and I swear if Griesux or whatever were to correct my spelling, i think I would snap. That, along with the "your mom" jokes is getting old. "I guess it doesnt matter if she corrects MY spelling.... but more just everyone in general. Its just getting a little annoying. We get it. She is spelling bee champion. " you know you seem to complain alot....does that make you the bitching champion? -------------------- Je suis toute du merde.
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Renegadepeon Hundreds of Proofs of God's existance Mar 30 2007, 01:14 PM
Jessica stupid Mar 30 2007, 02:31 PM
Dr. Gonzo Funny and very true Mar 30 2007, 03:24 PM
Jessica the arguement from Creation is based on a secular ... Mar 30 2007, 03:31 PM

Jessica QUOTE (griseyeux @ Mar 30 2007, 06:52 PM)... Mar 31 2007, 12:34 PM
Seussninja QUOTE (Jessica @ Mar 30 2007, 05:42 PM) e... Mar 31 2007, 03:02 AM
Jim There can proof (or disproof) of god's existen... Mar 30 2007, 04:11 PM
griseyeux *existence
yes, evolution and christianity can co... Mar 30 2007, 04:16 PM
Jim How do we know that things didn't evolve in th... Mar 30 2007, 04:49 PM
Jessica I guess it doesnt matter if she corrects MY spelli... Mar 30 2007, 04:56 PM
Jessica 7 results for: create
View results from: Dict... Mar 30 2007, 04:58 PM
RitalinJunkie It all depends on if your a bible literalist. Imag... Mar 30 2007, 05:10 PM
RitalinJunkie MORAL ARGUMENT (I)
(1) Person X, a well-known Athe... Mar 30 2007, 05:17 PM
Jim After reading this, I'm reminded of one of my ... Mar 30 2007, 05:40 PM
chook In the Silly Bee, everyone is going to State! Mar 30 2007, 06:21 PM
griseyeux QUOTE (chook @ Mar 30 2007, 07:21 PM) In ... Mar 30 2007, 06:24 PM
Dr. Gonzo Jessica I don't think you understand
Evolutio... Mar 30 2007, 06:25 PM
Jessica QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Mar 30 2007, 07:25 PM)... Mar 31 2007, 12:38 PM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (Jessica @ Mar 31 2007, 01:38 PM) I... Mar 31 2007, 07:50 PM
Jessica QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Mar 31 2007, 08:50 PM)... Apr 1 2007, 11:31 AM
Testm0nkey there is proof of dinosaurs => creationism cant... Mar 30 2007, 06:44 PM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Mar 30 2007, 07:44 PM... Mar 30 2007, 06:52 PM
jonathan83 QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Mar 30 2007, 07:44 PM... Apr 2 2007, 09:24 AM
Renegadepeon Scientist were able to create life using what they... Mar 30 2007, 07:05 PM
Dr. Gonzo Can you give a source for the creation of life in ... Mar 30 2007, 07:06 PM
Dr. Gonzo http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sciencenow/3214/01.ht... Mar 30 2007, 07:17 PM
griseyeux all of this discussion is making me want to watch ... Mar 30 2007, 07:35 PM
Dr. Gonzo Still waiting
From what little research I have b... Mar 30 2007, 07:51 PM
Testm0nkey they know how it was created
the 4 elements that ... Mar 30 2007, 07:56 PM
chook QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Mar 30 2007, 07:56 PM... Mar 30 2007, 09:12 PM
Renegadepeon http://www.techsans.net/forums/index.php?s...amp;#... Mar 30 2007, 07:59 PM
Dr. Gonzo Yeah sure
The real question is HOW did these chem... Mar 30 2007, 08:00 PM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Mar 30 2007, 08:56 PM... Mar 30 2007, 08:09 PM
Dr. Gonzo http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/...70315... Mar 30 2007, 08:13 PM
Renegadepeon QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Mar 30 2007, 08:13 PM)... Mar 30 2007, 09:09 PM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Mar 30 2007, 10:09 ... Mar 30 2007, 09:39 PM
THECHICKEN Man, i bet god is pissed... Mar 30 2007, 08:57 PM
Testm0s Boi Toi an asteroid doesnt need to hit the earth for eleme... Mar 30 2007, 08:59 PM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (Testm0s Boi Toi @ Mar 30 2007, 09... Mar 30 2007, 10:03 PM
Jim QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Mar 30 2007, 10:03 PM)... Mar 31 2007, 06:22 PM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (Jim @ Mar 31 2007, 07:22 PM) Wha..... Mar 31 2007, 07:52 PM
Renegadepeon The links he posted were the important part. Mar 30 2007, 11:39 PM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Mar 31 2007, 12:39 ... Mar 31 2007, 09:38 AM
Testm0s Boi Toi i know you and i supported the same idea i was jus... Mar 31 2007, 01:29 AM
Seussninja Believe whatever the hell you want just don't ... Mar 31 2007, 02:31 AM
Jim Good... now your post makes sense to me. Mar 31 2007, 07:54 PM
Dr. Gonzo Thanks for pointing it out. Mar 31 2007, 08:00 PM
Jim NP,bro. Mar 31 2007, 08:01 PM
Dr. Gonzo I read it, I just think it is a stupid argument.
... Apr 1 2007, 02:34 PM
Jessica QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Apr 1 2007, 03:34 PM) ... Apr 1 2007, 11:14 PM
Jim QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 1 2007, 11:14 PM) so... Apr 1 2007, 11:44 PM
Jessica QUOTE (Jim @ Apr 2 2007, 12:44 AM) Here w... Apr 2 2007, 10:45 AM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 2 2007, 11:45 AM) Im... Apr 2 2007, 03:28 PM
Jessica QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Apr 2 2007, 04:28 PM) ... Apr 2 2007, 03:37 PM
Testm0nkey there are some christians that dont believe in din... Apr 2 2007, 10:11 AM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Apr 2 2007, 11:11 AM)... Apr 2 2007, 02:58 PM
jonathan83 i think that must be a small group or something. i... Apr 2 2007, 10:37 AM
Jessica and for the record, im not saying I support Creati... Apr 2 2007, 10:46 AM
Renegadepeon Though I do not agree in which the way Jessica arg... Apr 2 2007, 03:31 PM
Dr. Gonzo Creationism is not a scientific theory. Some peopl... Apr 2 2007, 03:32 PM
Renegadepeon QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Apr 2 2007, 04:32 PM) ... Apr 2 2007, 03:34 PM
Dr. Gonzo No, it is a belief. Christians do not call it theo... Apr 2 2007, 03:35 PM
Renegadepeon QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Apr 2 2007, 04:35 PM) ... Apr 2 2007, 03:49 PM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Apr 2 2007, 04:49 P... Apr 2 2007, 04:00 PM
lamont's lament hey let's beat a dead horse some more Apr 2 2007, 03:35 PM
Dr. Gonzo Do we get to consume said horse after we beat it t... Apr 2 2007, 03:37 PM
Renegadepeon I feel people follow a religion more to be part of... Apr 2 2007, 03:38 PM
Dr. Gonzo I agree. Most Christian's are not really ... Apr 2 2007, 03:59 PM
Jim I actually think most people believe in religions ... Apr 2 2007, 04:07 PM
lamont's lament QUOTE (Jim @ Apr 2 2007, 05:07 PM) I actu... Apr 2 2007, 04:16 PM
Dr. Gonzo Most people believe in religion not because of the... Apr 2 2007, 05:36 PM
Jessica you know whats sad? I could probably beat 60-70% o... Apr 2 2007, 05:55 PM
impala454 IMHO both ideas are very compatible. If you belie... Apr 3 2007, 12:08 PM![]() ![]() |
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