This is so gay Options

[impala454]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17388702/?GT1=9145

when is this crap gonna stop?

[pebkac]

Honestly, a lot of that has very little to do with gay people, but you brought up societal movements. I can see where coming out would be a huge struggle because many are still discriminatory towards gays, but that is becoming less and less with each passing day. How about the term "bitching" when used in reference to someone complaining? Thats not very offensive...just slang; however, use the word "bitch" and it then becomes offensive. In my opinion the same can be said of the word "gay". Call someone gay: offensive.... "thats so gay" slang but not offensive.

Dictionary.com definition of bitch

1. A female canine animal, especially a dog.
2. Offensive
   1. A woman considered to be spiteful or overbearing.
   2. A lewd woman.
   3. A man considered to be weak or contemptible.
3. Slang A complaint.
4. Slang Something very unpleasant or difficult.

This is where the gay thing ties into the Mexican and black thing.... There is a point when you need to seperate offensiveness and normal everyday life. Just as black kids have for the most part not been subjected to racism like they think they have... so goes the whole "thats so gay" comment that is not used that way. Quit making yourself the victim when you arent is my point.

The problem is that I don't think female dogs are a portion of the population that has been struggling for equality. If that were the case, I would oppose the use of the word bitch as well.

this may or may not apply to you or pebkac... that is not part of my point so please dont take offense to what Im about to say:

Suicidal rates among homosexual males and lesbian girls might have little to do with their sexuality and more to do with their upbringing. Many openly gay people will admit to sexual abuse when they were younger. Maybe thats what causes a rise in suicide rates? You see what Im saying?

You cannot make a correlation like: Being a gay teenager means you are more at risk for committing suicide... unless you take into account the upbrining of said gay teenager. Im sure studies have been done regarding this, but I havent read up on them. Maybe there is a solid correlation between the two, but I havent heard that.

In the example you gave, yes, it was the ridicule associated with being gay that caused higher stress, but like I said many out of the closet gays have admitted to being sexually molested as children. *please note that I said "many" not "most" or "all"*

I'm not really sure I understand what you're getting at and I honestly don't think you do either. For what you say to be true, there would have to be a correlation between sexual abuse and sexuality, which there isn't.

I mean sure, upbringing does have a huge effect, but it has a huge effect on everything psychologically. It's like saying that schizophrenia isn't as big a problem because some people can deal with it better due to their upbringing.