 An ambitious claim, From Senator Reid |
| An ambitious claim, From Senator Reid |
 Feb 18 2007, 04:34 PM
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 Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46  |
QUOTE WASHINGTON (CNN) -- After months of heated rhetoric slamming President Bush's Iraq policy, the Senate's top Democrat moved into new terrain by declaring the Iraq war a worse blunder than Vietnam. "This war is a serious situation. It involves the worst foreign policy mistake in the history of this country," Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nevada, told CNN's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer." Full article: http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/18/reid.iraq/index.html I will agree that the invasion of Iraq is a blunder, but to claim that it is the worse foreign policy in US history is a bit ludicrous. Nothing as of yet has matched the US disaster in Vietnam... -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Feb 19 2007, 11:19 PM
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Corrupting the youth of America Group: Members Posts: 528 Joined: 12-May 06 From: Alice, TX Member No.: 176 |
sooo.....
poor forign policy+ insufficient evidence to go to war + causing instability in an already unstable government is worse than firebombing our own troops + ridiculing and abusing them when they get home + Red Scare reasoning + forcing thousands of hastily trained "recruits" (drafted soldiers) into active duty....... um......yeah....Iraq was more of a half-assed attemp at doing something that could have really helped a lot of people in that area (taking out a dictator, helping to set up an effective democratic governemt, etc.). Vietnam was us sending our soldiers to die for a cause that no one believed in. -------------------- Brandon....you're the reason I'm pro-choice.
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Feb 20 2007, 07:07 AM
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QUOTE (RitalinJunkie @ Feb 19 2007, 11:19 PM)  sooo..... poor forign policy+ insufficient evidence to go to war + causing instability in an already unstable government is worse than firebombing our own troops + ridiculing and abusing them when they get home + Red Scare reasoning + forcing thousands of hastily trained "recruits" (drafted soldiers) into active duty....... um......yeah....Iraq was more of a half-assed attemp at doing something that could have really helped a lot of people in that area (taking out a dictator, helping to set up an effective democratic governemt, etc.). Vietnam was us sending our soldiers to die for a cause that no one believed in. Though I mostly agree with your post (the point you're trying to make), I do have to ask a possibly derailing question: How is putting in our own puppet "democratic" government considered helping the people in that area? From what I understand, a good majority of the people there were perfectly happy with Saddam. --------------------  QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Nov 16 2007, 09:22 PM) |
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Feb 21 2007, 08:31 PM
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Corrupting the youth of America Group: Members Posts: 528 Joined: 12-May 06 From: Alice, TX Member No.: 176 |
QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Feb 20 2007, 07:07 AM) Though I mostly agree with your post (the point you're trying to make), I do have to ask a possibly derailing question: How is putting in our own puppet "democratic" government considered helping the people in that area? From what I understand, a good majority of the people there were perfectly happy with Saddam. Im just saying that it had the potential to help those people in that way....too bad we have a bad habit of choosing bad leaders for anyone....see also Cuba and Afganistan. I also have to agree tho that I think the majoriy of people were afraid of the things saddam would do to them....even after the fall of the dictator there is a lot of stigma...the whole "if he comes back...im fucked" idea. -------------------- Brandon....you're the reason I'm pro-choice.
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Feb 21 2007, 08:37 PM
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 monogamous gays & stem cells Group: Members Posts: 3,789 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 8 |
QUOTE (RitalinJunkie @ Feb 21 2007, 08:31 PM) I also have to agree tho that I think the majoriy of people were afraid of the things saddam would do to them....even after the fall of the dictator there is a lot of stigma...the whole "if he comes back...im fucked" idea. hmm, zombie saddam... |
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Feb 21 2007, 10:17 PM
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  Group: Agents Posts: 4,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lu-bok Member No.: 41 |
QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Feb 21 2007, 08:37 PM) hmm, zombie saddam... mmmm.... zombie jf kennedy and zombie monroe live on pay per view... oh wait. we cant have a zombie jf kennedy. he allready had his brains blown out. maybe a zombie che arises to see how he is a commercialized patsy. -------------------- 32-bit whore
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Dr. Gonzo An ambitious claim Feb 18 2007, 04:34 PM
lamont's lament hmm, people will say anything to make the news.
... Feb 18 2007, 04:38 PM Dr. Gonzo for real Feb 18 2007, 04:55 PM Aaron Iraq, as big of a fuck-up as it is, is not even in... Feb 18 2007, 05:24 PM Divergent Reality its even a different kind of war. Feb 18 2007, 07:30 PM Hartmann Reid makes me laugh... I don't think I've ... Feb 19 2007, 08:52 PM
Hartmann QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Feb 20 2007, 07:07 ... Feb 20 2007, 08:53 AM Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Feb 20 2007, 07:07 ... Feb 20 2007, 10:32 AM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (Divergent Reality @ Feb 21 2007, 10... Feb 22 2007, 12:26 PM pebkac Yeah. Everyone liked Saddam because everyone who ... Feb 20 2007, 09:25 AM chook I think there was a scene in Bananas, the woody al... Feb 20 2007, 11:39 AM Dr. Gonzo Stalin just purged all the party members who oppos... Feb 20 2007, 08:10 PM Renegadepeon I think the majority of iraqis would prefer the si... Feb 20 2007, 08:22 PM Dr. Gonzo Not the Shiites or Kurds
I mean civil strife suc... Feb 21 2007, 12:35 PM griseyeux yeah i think that america should step back and let... Feb 21 2007, 01:29 PM Dr. Gonzo There is one problem with withdrawing, The last th... Feb 21 2007, 02:35 PM impala454 it's a fad... almost a competition, to see who... Feb 21 2007, 04:27 PM Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 21 2007, 04:27 PM)... Feb 22 2007, 11:17 PM griseyeux goddamnit. this was a political thread NOT a zombi... Feb 22 2007, 08:30 PM Aaron The Stalin comparison is a faulty one because the ... Feb 22 2007, 10:40 PM Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (Aaron @ Feb 22 2007, 10:40 PM) The... Feb 22 2007, 11:18 PM Aaron I meant in the context of the comparison of the Th... Feb 22 2007, 11:43 PM Dr. Gonzo Well yeah, the thread went into a tangent
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