State of the Union, or the response... Options

[Hartmann]

The State of the Union was, in my opinion, a wakeup call for the democrats. Either support the troop movement or get the troops out of there, the middle ground is not an option. Also, I thought the President's point about a civilian force of workers was interesting. I do not know if I support it or not, but it's a novel idea...

Jim Webb's "official" Democratic response was even more intriguing, especially this paragraph:

The majority of the nation no longer supports the way this war is being fought; nor does the majority of our military. We need a new direction. Not one step back from the war against international terrorism. Not a precipitous withdrawal that ignores the possibility of further chaos. But an immediate shift toward strong regionally-based diplomacy, a policy that takes our soldiers off the streets of Iraq's cities, and a formula that will in short order allow our combat forces to leave Iraq.

In the same paragraph he contradicts himself...

Not a precipitous withdrawal that ignores the possibility of further chaos.

...a policy that takes our soldiers off the streets of Iraq's cities, and a formula that will in short order allow our combat forces to leave Iraq.

Then there is this sentence (from the same paragraph), important part emphasized:

The majority of the nation no longer supports the way this war is being fought; nor does the majority of our military.

I'd like to know where he gets his statistics...

[Hartmann]

I don't think it's a fact that people don't support the war... I think it's fact that this country has lost interest.

The dems are attempting to turn this into Vietnam and for anyone who's actually studied the commanders during Vietnam and read their memoirs, you learn very quickly that they believed had they been given more troops and more time, they could have won there. Tet was a down point but they believe that the slow bleed Congress enacted on their powers as commanders caused them to lose. And it's happening again now. No one wants to open their eyes and see this... The defeatist attitude is going to get Americans killed and accomplish nothing.

[The Fanatic]

I don't think it's a fact that people don't support the war... I think it's fact that this country has lost interest.

The dems are attempting to turn this into Vietnam and for anyone who's actually studied the commanders during Vietnam and read their memoirs, you learn very quickly that they believed had they been given more troops and more time, they could have won there. Tet was a down point but they believe that the slow bleed Congress enacted on their powers as commanders caused them to lose. And it's happening again now. No one wants to open their eyes and see this... The defeatist attitude is going to get Americans killed and accomplish nothing.

http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm

As for Vietnam, we should have never invaded in the first place. But that is just my opinion.