Vanguard, new game Options

[impala454]

A guy at work is pimping this game saying when it comes out it could be a WoW killer. Supposedly will be a pretty sweet game coming out Q1 '07. Anyone heard about it?

http://www.vanguardsoh.com/

[Rocky]

Everything is a rip off.

WoW was a complete rip off of EQ, where they just made it 100x easier so anybody could play.

EQ was a rip off of Ultima Online to some


The whole genre is getting so played out - but who knows, somebody may come in and just do the same thing that the others did in the past - rip off the fun aspects and ideas of the previous king, and add things to make it more user friendly.

[impala454]

Everything is a rip off.

WoW was a complete rip off of EQ, where they just made it 100x easier so anybody could play.

EQ was a rip off of Ultima Online to some
The whole genre is getting so played out - but who knows, somebody may come in and just do the same thing that the others did in the past - rip off the fun aspects and ideas of the previous king, and add things to make it more user friendly.

yeah this is probably true... i never played EQ or UO so I wouldn't have known. There are definitely certain aspects of these games you can't really consider a "copy". i mean, obviously characters are going to have hit points, levels, etc. what i meant was just how closely their interface and such matches WoWs. They're honestly nearly identical. i guess i'm just trying to report on the game as it's a new one that's been pretty highly touted. i just honestly haven't been impressed so far, especially with the (seemingly) lack of creativity as far as the art/quests/UI/fighting goes. on their website they say:

What is Sigil’s goal for Vanguard: Saga of Heroes?
Quite honestly, our goal is to make the next primiere massively multiplayer role-playing game.

(and yeah it's copy/pasted, they mis-spelled premiere)
i'm just saying it seems like they've got their work cut out for them if they feel they're going to accomplish this and eclipse WoW. WoW has 8 million subscribers and 2 years of polish & balancing, and if WoW players get on there and just feel like it's the same game, they won't have any reason to switch.

vanguard aside though.. in comparing to all the other MMOs, WoW must have done something right as they've just topped 8 million subscribers worldwide. part of it probably is the short term success helping the long term... i.e. because they've been on top for so long and make so much money, they can dump more back into development/art/gfx/programming/etc. another part is like Rocky said, they made it easier (at least for the lower levels), but imho they also kept the challenge at the higher levels. overall i attribute WoW's success simply to the way blizzard operates. they do what they want to do, not what all the gamers cry that they want. they've showed extremely high quality of pretty much every game they put out. every game they've released has won tons of awards, from the warcraft RTS, starcraft RTS, diablo series, and now WoW.