Jan 8 2007, 04:30 PM
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![]() From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
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QUOTE Bush's decisions, more than two months in the making, are already drawing criticism from new Democratic leaders in Congress who say it is time to begin ending the war, not to send in more US forces. I think this will turn out to be interesting. I wouldn't really have any problem with a "surge" if it would result in at least a half-assed plan to leave Iraq. -------------------- Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Jan 12 2007, 10:32 PM
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![]() Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
The facts:
Saddam had weapons of mass destruction before and shortly after the gulf war These weapons were given to him by the United States of America to fight Iran Saddam used these weapons on Iranians, Kurds, Sunnis, etc. The United States did nothing Saddam invades Kuwait in 1991, the united states retaliates because of oil interests which over ride their past dealings with the Iraqi dictator Weapons are seized, destroyed, and Iraq is devastated by over a decade of economic sanctions and the "food for oil" program What they told us: Saddam was partly responsible for the 9/11 attacks. False, Osama Bin Laden and his terrorist network were responsible for 9/11; unless of course you believe we attacked ourselves. Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. False: these weapons were never discovered, they were destroyed after the gulf war, even Hans Blix and other UN inspectors found no evidence of weapons of mass destruction. Even if he did have weapons, the United States gave these weapons to him.) We invaded Iraq to bring democracy to that part of the world. False, The invasion has created a civil war and an ever increasing conflict that the American people are no longer willing to fight. Some argue that the war was fought for oil, revenge, and/ or strategic reasons. I will not argue on the real reasons, because only Bush and his cronies know. What should we do: Congress must halt the increased troop deployment in Iraq (Congress does have the power of the purse). This war is not winnable. The Iraqi people will continue to fight until one side has become victorious. The only thing the United States can do is train the Iraqi forces in Iraqi and begin to pull out gradually. The last thing we need is to increase troops -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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pebkac Bush vs. Congress Jan 8 2007, 04:30 PM
impala454 well there's too many people who believe we co... Jan 8 2007, 04:35 PM
pebkac QUOTE (impala454 @ Jan 8 2007, 04:35 PM) ... Jan 8 2007, 04:37 PM
impala454 unfortunately wars don't typically follow a sc... Jan 8 2007, 04:39 PM
pebkac Yes, but there are still some decisions that can b... Jan 8 2007, 04:47 PM
Hartmann QUOTE (pebkac @ Jan 8 2007, 04:47 PM) Yes... Jan 8 2007, 04:49 PM
FORSAKENR320 i agree with hartman. instead of treating this a... Jan 9 2007, 05:46 AM
impala454 i think that the new demos in congress (esp that n... Jan 9 2007, 08:50 AM
woody QUOTE (impala454 @ Jan 9 2007, 07:50 AM) ... Jan 9 2007, 09:30 AM
Seussninja Our soldiers would come home, man how terrible wou... Jan 10 2007, 11:17 PM
FORSAKENR320 not really on topic, but there are alot of advanta... Jan 11 2007, 05:29 AM
Psykopath QUOTE 4. some may disagree, but it is a show of s... Jan 11 2007, 11:49 AM
impala454 QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jan 11 2007, 11:49 AM)... Jan 11 2007, 03:36 PM

Psykopath QUOTE (impala454 @ Jan 11 2007, 03:36 PM)... Jan 11 2007, 03:53 PM

FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jan 11 2007, 03:53 PM)... Jan 12 2007, 06:36 AM

impala454 QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jan 11 2007, 03:53 PM)... Jan 12 2007, 09:22 AM

Psykopath QUOTE (impala454 @ Jan 12 2007, 09:22 AM)... Jan 12 2007, 09:22 PM

Jessica QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jan 12 2007, 09:22 PM)... Jan 13 2007, 12:17 AM

impala454 QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jan 12 2007, 09:22 PM)... Jan 13 2007, 01:54 AM

Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (impala454 @ Jan 13 2007, 01:54 AM)... Jan 13 2007, 01:59 AM

impala454 QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Jan 13 2007, 01:59 AM)... Jan 13 2007, 02:07 AM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jan 11 2007, 11:49 AM)... Jan 11 2007, 03:37 PM
Psykopath QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Jan 11 2007, 03:37 ... Jan 11 2007, 03:56 PM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jan 11 2007, 03:56 PM)... Jan 12 2007, 06:40 AM
Spectatrix Durka durka jihad. Jan 11 2007, 07:43 PM
Divergent Reality QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jan 11 2007, 07:43 PM... Jan 11 2007, 09:04 PM
Jessica QUOTE (Divergent Reality @ Jan 11 2007, 09... Jan 11 2007, 11:04 PM
pysex it should've been iran....not iraq Jan 11 2007, 11:12 PM
lamont's lament QUOTE (pysex @ Jan 11 2007, 11:12 PM) it ... Jan 11 2007, 11:19 PM
Jessica QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Jan 12 2007, 10:32 PM)... Jan 12 2007, 11:41 PM
Dr. Gonzo I fucking hate Michael Moore. How exactly do I sou... Jan 13 2007, 12:04 AM
lamont's lament QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Jan 13 2007, 12:04 AM)... Jan 13 2007, 12:18 AM
Jessica QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Jan 13 2007, 12:04 AM)... Jan 13 2007, 12:22 AM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (Jessica @ Jan 13 2007, 12:22 AM) 1... Jan 13 2007, 06:03 AM
Jessica QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Jan 13 2007, 06:03 ... Jan 15 2007, 11:56 AM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (Jessica @ Jan 15 2007, 11:56 AM) I... Jan 16 2007, 06:17 PM
Dr. Gonzo It does not matter if they were said by Mr. Moore ... Jan 13 2007, 01:47 AM
Jessica QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Jan 13 2007, 01:47 AM)... Jan 15 2007, 12:15 PM
Dr. Gonzo What is National sovereignty? Jan 13 2007, 01:55 AM
impala454 (thank you for the correction though ) Jan 13 2007, 02:08 AM
Dr. Gonzo Words can only be supported with force. Remember, ... Jan 13 2007, 02:09 AM
impala454 QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Jan 13 2007, 02:09 AM)... Jan 15 2007, 11:04 AM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (impala454 @ Jan 15 2007, 11:04 AM)... Jan 15 2007, 01:55 PM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Jan 13 2007, 02:09 AM)... Jan 13 2007, 02:11 AM
Dr. Gonzo Yeah, Stalin killed millions of Russians. Not to m... Jan 13 2007, 09:44 AM
Dr. Gonzo Wait, So even though the war is wrong and grounded... Jan 15 2007, 01:53 PM
lamont's lament QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Jan 15 2007, 01:53 PM)... Jan 15 2007, 02:08 PM
Dr. Gonzo First off, I work full time jack ass
Secondly, I ... Jan 15 2007, 03:51 PM
Psykopath QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Jan 15 2007, 03:51 PM)... Jan 15 2007, 03:52 PM
lamont's lament QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Jan 15 2007, 03:51 PM)... Jan 15 2007, 04:19 PM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Jan 15 2007, 04... Jan 15 2007, 04:23 PM
Rocky Actually he said he DID vote.
But the whole argu... Jan 15 2007, 04:22 PM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (Rocky @ Jan 15 2007, 04:22 PM) Act... Jan 15 2007, 04:24 PM
lamont's lament QUOTE (Rocky @ Jan 15 2007, 04:22 PM) Act... Jan 15 2007, 04:28 PM
Rocky I think that is what it comes down to for most peo... Jan 15 2007, 04:33 PM
Dr. Gonzo Then again, when you only have two viable choices,... Jan 15 2007, 04:41 PM
pysex I think we're all forgetting that conflict is ... Jan 15 2007, 04:42 PM
Dr. Gonzo Racist! Jan 15 2007, 04:44 PM
pysex QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Jan 15 2007, 04:44 PM)... Jan 15 2007, 04:47 PM
Dr. Gonzo your mom can't deny Jan 15 2007, 04:47 PM
pysex QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Jan 15 2007, 04:47 PM)... Jan 15 2007, 04:48 PM
Jessica I just think its totally fucking pathetic to be bi... Jan 15 2007, 05:14 PM
Dr. Gonzo I completly agree, saying stuff on the internet do... Jan 15 2007, 11:31 PM
Renegadepeon I do not think philosophy is useless. However, Je... Jan 16 2007, 06:24 PM
Jessica umm...my degree still got me into a master's d... Jan 16 2007, 10:32 PM
Dr. Gonzo NO degree is useless
any degree is better then n... Jan 16 2007, 10:38 PM![]() ![]() |
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