Dec 15 2006, 05:02 PM
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Dec 19 2006, 09:46 PM
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![]() ROCKPACALYPSE NOW Group: Members Posts: 1,519 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 13 |
Ol Charles you are missing it entirely. It's not that cut and dry.
Fellowship is a huge part of christians and their meetings at church. They may want to spend time with likeminded people, do activities with eachother. A level of comfort with spending your time with people who have something significant to you, in common. Obviously a huge part of christian church service is direct worship. So the question exists - what are there for atheists to do in a gathering ? Perhaps they could : - talk about if they were ever religious to begin with and what changed their minds - discussions over various religions (and not necessarily just to shit on them) - discuss political and social events that they may feel are for or against them. - and yeah, who knows, maybe they could discuss on how right they are for not picking christianity - but isn't the opposite what Christians do ? It's all in how you view it. And you may wonder why atheism usually "attacks" christianity the biggest. We are in America, and there is no more prominent religion at all. Especially in the south ! It wasn't until I moved to Austin did I finally feel like I wasn't living in a community that looked down on me for not praising jesus. Fun note - I live maybe 50 yards from what could be the largest church-o-plex i've ever seen in my life. -------------------- QUOTE (Lance) now we have some dude from argentina wondering how to fuck dogmeat |
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Dec 21 2006, 01:19 PM
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![]() Group: Agents Posts: 4,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lu-bok Member No.: 41 |
Especially in the south ! It wasn't until I moved to Austin did I finally feel like I wasn't living in a community that looked down on me for not praising jesus. Fun note - I live maybe 50 yards from what could be the largest church-o-plex i've ever seen in my life. i grew up with this beast in the home town. the 'jesus is lord over alvin' bumperstickers and billboards and the occasional slap in the face from the more zealot christians. -------------------- |
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Dec 22 2006, 01:24 AM
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![]() Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
i grew up with this beast in the home town. the 'jesus is lord over alvin' bumperstickers and billboards and the occasional slap in the face from the more zealot christians. god damnit (heh) man... I know how you feel... I grew up in a town that has the most churches per square mile in the united states. Abilene also has three uber christian universities. Mix that with an air force base and you have a dangerous cocktail of uber conservatism and evangelical bull shit. -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Dec 22 2006, 10:13 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
I grew up in a town that has the most churches per square mile in the united states. Abilene also has three uber christian universities. Mix that with an air force base and you have a dangerous cocktail of uber conservatism and evangelical bull shit. and this is dangerous because? |
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Jan 4 2007, 03:20 AM
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![]() Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
and this is dangerous because? It is not dangerous, more like hypocritical -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Jan 4 2007, 01:01 PM
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![]() New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
It is not dangerous, more like hypocritical hypocritical how? You know, I grew up in a VERY strict Baptist home and I attended a private baptist school from preschool until I graduated from high school. I dont know where all this animosity that some of you have is coming from. I mean, I dont follow that religion anymore because of a lot of reasons and I argue with my mom over the "future of my soul", but some of you act like you were forced to blow a catholic priest when you were 5. Even then that isnt an excuse. My father had to testify against a priest for sexual assault that he endured when he was 10. Guess what? He doesnt have a hatred towards Christianity. I think the reason that most of you act like this is because its the HIPSTER thing to be an atheist or scoff at Christianity. Lighten up and learn to be more accepting of other people's beliefs. |
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Jan 5 2007, 05:32 PM
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![]() Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
hypocritical how? You know, I grew up in a VERY strict Baptist home and I attended a private baptist school from preschool until I graduated from high school. I dont know where all this animosity that some of you have is coming from. I mean, I dont follow that religion anymore because of a lot of reasons and I argue with my mom over the "future of my soul", but some of you act like you were forced to blow a catholic priest when you were 5. Even then that isnt an excuse. My father had to testify against a priest for sexual assault that he endured when he was 10. Guess what? He doesnt have a hatred towards Christianity. I think the reason that most of you act like this is because its the HIPSTER thing to be an atheist or scoff at Christianity. Lighten up and learn to be more accepting of other people's beliefs. I think there may be a misunderstanding. If you actually knew me in person, you would know that I am one of the most accepting and tolerant human beings out there. Sometimes stuff you put on the internet can come off the wrong way. It is hypocritical where I am from because people will go to church, claim they are christians, and claim they despise sin; yet they will go drinking, partying, sinning basically. Everyone sins that is a given. However, there is no need to denounce activities like drinking if members of your own church knowingly engage in them. Let's face it, jesus turned water into wine. I don't hate chritianity or christians. Some of my best friends are christians, and I would have them no other way because that is what makes them who they are. I am not out to change them as long as they are not out to change me. I do enjoy having religious discussions with them, but I never actively push my beliefs on others. Athiesm should not be used to force its ideas on to other human beings just because we do not believe that there is a god out there. I did not mean to come off as intolerant if you took it that way... -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Jan 5 2007, 05:59 PM
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![]() New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
I think there may be a misunderstanding. If you actually knew me in person, you would know that I am one of the most accepting and tolerant human beings out there. Sometimes stuff you put on the internet can come off the wrong way. It is hypocritical where I am from because people will go to church, claim they are christians, and claim they despise sin; yet they will go drinking, partying, sinning basically. Everyone sins that is a given. However, there is no need to denounce activities like drinking if members of your own church knowingly engage in them. Let's face it, jesus turned water into wine. I don't hate chritianity or christians. Some of my best friends are christians, and I would have them no other way because that is what makes them who they are. I am not out to change them as long as they are not out to change me. I do enjoy having religious discussions with them, but I never actively push my beliefs on others. Athiesm should not be used to force its ideas on to other human beings just because we do not believe that there is a god out there. I did not mean to come off as intolerant if you took it that way... Modern Christianity isnt very accepting of drinking because people do not acknowledge their limits, much less stay within them. Any church will tell you that they do not forbid a glass or two of wine....they forbid drunkeness which Christ forbid also. I think there are several misunderstandings about christianity, and this has always been one that bothers me. That being said, yes there are a lot of your "Sunday Christians"...another words ones that only act holy when they are in church. They have given in to worldly pleasures. I dont see anything wrong with them going out and partying....partying is not a sin. Drinking is not a sin. Acting ridiculously drunk and slutty in front of a bunch of people is a sin. I think that churches preasure young teens too much with rules that really are more strict than they are supposed to be. Churches feel that the best way to not get drunk and stupid is to avoid alcohol all together. Sure. thats cool, but that doesnt mean that a few drinks every now and then makes the Christian any less holy. They are simply having a little fun. |
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Jan 5 2007, 06:01 PM
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![]() Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
Modern Christianity isnt very accepting of drinking because people do not acknowledge their limits, much less stay within them. Any church will tell you that they do not forbid a glass or two of wine....they forbid drunkeness which Christ forbid also. I think there are several misunderstandings about christianity, and this has always been one that bothers me. That being said, yes there are a lot of your "Sunday Christians"...another words ones that only act holy when they are in church. They have given in to worldly pleasures. I dont see anything wrong with them going out and partying....partying is not a sin. Drinking is not a sin. Acting ridiculously drunk and slutty in front of a bunch of people is a sin. I think that churches preasure young teens too much with rules that really are more strict than they are supposed to be. Churches feel that the best way to not get drunk and stupid is to avoid alcohol all together. Sure. thats cool, but that doesnt mean that a few drinks every now and then makes the Christian any less holy. They are simply having a little fun. I agree, nothing wrong with christian people having responsible fun. -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Spectatrix Another atheism thread Dec 15 2006, 05:02 PM
impala454 ho hum... more losers w/too much time on their han... Dec 15 2006, 11:36 PM
Jim QUOTE (impala454 @ Dec 15 2006, 11:36 PM)... Dec 15 2006, 11:55 PM
impala454 yeah... in context means add one more verse... don... Dec 16 2006, 12:01 AM
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impala454 QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Dec 16 2006, 12:38 AM... Dec 16 2006, 12:48 AM
Jim QUOTE (impala454 @ Dec 16 2006, 12:48 AM)... Dec 16 2006, 12:59 AM
impala454 sweet! more one liners & christian bashing... Dec 16 2006, 12:30 AM
Jim QUOTE (impala454 @ Dec 16 2006, 12:30 AM)... Dec 16 2006, 12:34 AM
impala454 QUOTE (Jim @ Dec 16 2006, 12:34 AM) That... Dec 16 2006, 12:39 AM
Jim QUOTE (impala454 @ Dec 16 2006, 12:39 AM)... Dec 16 2006, 12:41 AM
Spectatrix All of Mark, Chapter 3:
QUOTE 1 And he entered ag... Dec 16 2006, 12:31 AM
Jim And if you got butt hurt over xtian, then damn, su... Dec 16 2006, 12:37 AM
Spectatrix Context can include not only the text, but also hi... Dec 16 2006, 12:44 AM
Spectatrix The Blasphemy Challenge is being put on by the Rat... Dec 16 2006, 12:58 AM
Aaron The gay thing about this is that their Blasphemy C... Dec 16 2006, 01:42 AM
Dr. Gonzo you stong atheists make me laugh trying to argue a... Dec 16 2006, 05:09 AM
pebkac QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Dec 16 2006, 05:09 AM)... Dec 16 2006, 03:55 PM
Rocky These faggots are just creating a little group. I... Dec 16 2006, 10:22 AM
chook QUOTE (Rocky @ Dec 16 2006, 10:22 AM) I d... Dec 17 2006, 11:27 AM
pysex i laugh when people who want equality and liberal ... Dec 16 2006, 10:35 AM
Renegadepeon Sorry. I need something for my computer that if I... Dec 16 2006, 10:57 AM
Divergent Reality QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Dec 16 2006, 10:57 ... Dec 16 2006, 04:16 PM
Nitch No! Allied Atheist Alliance! That way it h... Dec 16 2006, 11:23 AM
Trespass The one line about being in hell "forever... Dec 17 2006, 12:45 AM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (Trespass @ Dec 17 2006, 12:45 AM) ... Dec 17 2006, 01:49 AM
impala454 yeah i don't care if someone is atheist... but... Dec 17 2006, 09:18 PM
FORSAKENR320 why not? they are confirming their beliefs by dis... Dec 17 2006, 10:07 PM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Dec 17 2006, 10:07 ... Dec 18 2006, 12:29 AM
Rocky QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Dec 18 2006, 12:29 AM)... Dec 18 2006, 12:40 AM
impala454 well typically people gather because they're i... Dec 17 2006, 11:04 PM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (impala454 @ Dec 17 2006, 11:04 PM)... Dec 18 2006, 07:09 AM
pysex QUOTE (impala454 @ Dec 17 2006, 11:04 PM)... Dec 18 2006, 09:32 AM
Dr. Gonzo May be the case, just furthers my point. Christian... Dec 18 2006, 12:49 AM
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Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (pysex @ Dec 18 2006, 01:09 AM) SWE... Dec 19 2006, 12:11 AM

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Rocky Oh I agree.
I have absolutely no respect for C... Dec 18 2006, 01:02 AM
Divergent Reality QUOTE (Rocky @ Dec 18 2006, 01:02 AM) Oh ... Dec 18 2006, 01:05 AM
chook QUOTE (Divergent Reality @ Dec 18 2006, 01... Dec 18 2006, 01:09 AM
impala454 heheh yeah... well i guess what i'm saying is
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Spectatrix QUOTE (impala454 @ Dec 18 2006, 11:41 AM)... Dec 18 2006, 11:49 AM

Aaron QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Dec 18 2006, 11:49 AM... Dec 18 2006, 12:15 PM

chook QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Dec 18 2006, 11:49 AM... Dec 18 2006, 12:45 PM
John6.7 QUOTE (impala454 @ Dec 18 2006, 11:41 AM)... Dec 19 2006, 02:04 AM
impala454 QUOTE (John6.7 @ Dec 19 2006, 02:04 AM) S... Dec 19 2006, 09:29 AM
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impala454 QUOTE (John6.7 @ Dec 19 2006, 02:54 PM) S... Dec 19 2006, 04:57 PM
Jim QUOTE (impala454 @ Dec 19 2006, 04:57 PM)... Dec 19 2006, 05:48 PM
John6.7 QUOTE (impala454 @ Dec 19 2006, 04:57 PM)... Dec 19 2006, 08:35 PM
Hartmann I think that C.S. Lewis' quote on Atheism is s... Dec 19 2006, 08:48 AM
impala454 john, your question didn't make sense with the... Dec 19 2006, 08:58 PM
John6.7 QUOTE (impala454 @ Dec 19 2006, 08:58 PM)... Dec 19 2006, 10:37 PM
impala454 QUOTE (John6.7 @ Dec 19 2006, 10:37 PM) I... Dec 20 2006, 09:15 AM
pysex QUOTE (impala454 @ Dec 20 2006, 09:15 AM)... Dec 20 2006, 09:46 AM
John6.7 QUOTE (impala454 @ Dec 20 2006, 09:15 AM)... Dec 20 2006, 07:10 PM
Jim QUOTE (impala454 @ Dec 22 2006, 09:13 PM)... Dec 22 2006, 10:16 PM
impala454 it just seems to me that if you don't believe ... Dec 19 2006, 10:29 PM
John6.7 QUOTE (impala454 @ Dec 19 2006, 10:29 PM)... Dec 19 2006, 10:39 PM
FORSAKENR320 if people didn't get together and discuss what... Dec 20 2006, 07:18 AM
Renegadepeon Spirituality is a beautiful thing, but religion is... Dec 20 2006, 08:56 AM
pysex I think everyone needs to accept the fact that ath... Dec 20 2006, 09:44 AM
pysex p.s. Atheism is still a religion. Dec 20 2006, 09:49 AM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (pysex @ Dec 20 2006, 09:49 AM) p.s... Dec 20 2006, 10:25 AM
pysex QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Dec 20 2006, 10:25 AM)... Dec 20 2006, 10:28 AM
TetraGrammaton Cleric QUOTE (impala454 @ Dec 20 2006, 09:15 AM)... Dec 20 2006, 10:05 AM
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Dr. Gonzo QUOTE here's what I want you guys to admit: at... Dec 20 2006, 10:28 AM
cupcake trying to discuss religion with techsans.net...not... Dec 20 2006, 12:36 PM
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FORSAKENR320 i think it's funny how it's perfectly ok f... Dec 20 2006, 05:00 PM
Seussninja You people are hilarious.
I'm a humanist. fu... Dec 21 2006, 12:59 AM
Dr. Gonzo fuck humanism
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Timbo http://cyber-knowledge.net/blog/2006/09/11...-to-b... Jan 4 2007, 02:55 AM
woody QUOTE but some of you act like you were forced to ... Jan 4 2007, 01:30 PM
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