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Timbo
post Dec 11 2006, 09:27 PM
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What excites me the most is the bit about Ron Paul's legislation.


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Billy
post Dec 13 2006, 03:47 PM
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So that's fair? So a guy who works just as hard for your dad, makes less, and can't even write off his truck, but still has to pay just as much tax? See, that's messed up.


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post Dec 13 2006, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Dec 13 2006, 03:47 PM) *
So that's fair? So a guy who works just as hard for your dad, makes less, and can't even write off his truck, but still has to pay just as much tax? See, that's messed up.

wtf does "working hard" have to do with shit? it's my dad's truck that does more work, so his business will run. if he bought a truck and didn't use it in his business it would last longer. like i said, the whole point of small business deductions is to promote the little guy. and shit the sales tax is what nails him worse than anything, and you want to increase that to 30%?

here's a nice little page a person did describing how the shit works:
http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:u1Ln8q...t=clnk&cd=3
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The Top 1% of taxpayers pay 29% of all taxes.
The Top 5% of taxpayers pay 50% of all taxes.
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post Dec 13 2006, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Dec 13 2006, 04:15 PM) *
wtf does "working hard" have to do with shit? it's my dad's truck that does more work, so his business will run. if he bought a truck and didn't use it in his business it would last longer. like i said, the whole point of small business deductions is to promote the little guy. and shit the sales tax is what nails him worse than anything, and you want to increase that to 30%?

here's a nice little page a person did describing how the shit works:
http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:u1Ln8q...t=clnk&cd=3


Ok, this is what I'm talking about. This is how you convince someone of your case.

So, the wealthy do indeed pay the most. That is very surprising and goes against common knowledge. My accounting professor told me when he was younger he did taxes for some wealthy business owners. He claimed that he, making a mere 50k a year paid more in tax than these multi millionaires. Perhaps this was an isolated case.

So do you find this system fair? Do you feel the current tax system is fair to everybody? Is it necessary to have as many different types of taxes as we do? Or do you think there could be a way where everyone just pays one tax, and that is what funds the government/military?


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- Timbo   The Liberty Amendment   Dec 11 2006, 09:27 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE Proposing an amendment to the Constitution o...   Dec 11 2006, 09:44 PM
|- - Overlord   QUOTE (impala454 @ Dec 11 2006, 09:44 PM)...   Dec 12 2006, 11:52 PM
|- - Throwdown   QUOTE (Overlord @ Dec 12 2006, 11:52 PM) ...   Dec 13 2006, 08:41 AM
- - Timbo   You're very silly. The tax garnished from inc...   Dec 12 2006, 11:36 PM
|- - pebkac   QUOTE (Timbo @ Dec 12 2006, 11:36 PM) AVA...   Dec 13 2006, 03:03 AM
|- - Throwdown   QUOTE (pebkac @ Dec 13 2006, 03:03 AM) Y...   Dec 13 2006, 08:56 AM
|- - pebkac   QUOTE (Throwdown @ Dec 13 2006, 08:56 AM)...   Dec 13 2006, 12:41 PM
- - impala454   timbo, if you replaced the current income tax syst...   Dec 13 2006, 12:16 AM
|- - TTUAthleticTrainer   QUOTE (impala454 @ Dec 13 2006, 12:16 AM)...   Dec 13 2006, 03:51 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (TTUAthleticTrainer @ Dec 13 2006, 03...   Dec 13 2006, 09:12 AM
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|- - impala454   QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Dec 13 2006, 11:35 ...   Dec 13 2006, 11:54 AM
- - Renegadepeon   I support a national sales tax. It is a fair tax ...   Dec 13 2006, 07:21 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Dec 13 2006, 07:21 ...   Dec 13 2006, 09:22 AM
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|- - impala454   QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Dec 13 2006, 09:30 ...   Dec 13 2006, 09:43 AM
- - Throwdown   if anything, the billionaire business visionaries ...   Dec 13 2006, 09:15 AM
- - Renegadepeon   Impala, you are arguing against something that wou...   Dec 13 2006, 11:59 AM
- - FORSAKENR320   fuck you and your death tax. why work hard to ea...   Dec 13 2006, 12:05 PM
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- - Spectatrix   The death tax is double taxation. Fuck that.   Dec 13 2006, 01:44 PM
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|- - Trespass   QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Dec 13 2006, 03:57 ...   Dec 13 2006, 04:02 PM
- - Renegadepeon   So that's fair? So a guy who works just as ha...   Dec 13 2006, 03:47 PM
|- - Trespass   QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Dec 13 2006, 03:47 ...   Dec 13 2006, 03:49 PM
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- - woody   QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Dec 13 2006, 02:47 ...   Dec 13 2006, 03:59 PM
- - Renegadepeon   I could propose that we need oxygen to breathe, an...   Dec 13 2006, 04:04 PM
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- - impala454   eh... for my own personal experiences i like it ok...   Dec 13 2006, 07:08 PM
- - Dr. Gonzo   Right...   Dec 13 2006, 09:20 PM


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