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post Dec 11 2006, 09:27 PM
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What excites me the most is the bit about Ron Paul's legislation.


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Trespass
post Dec 13 2006, 03:33 PM
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Why would there be a recession without the current death tax? Just as a legitimate question. (oh and just because i don't like yours doesn't mean i like the one we have now... im still against it)

And you talk about the farm... but most likely the farm is mortgaged, with only cash in account for payments...

And again, you talk about tax breaks, but they are there for a reason. To promote businesses to help on their own accord. You call the businesses wrong for obeying the law? I guess you can be against tax breaks in general, but i think they promote capatilism by letting people decide how to give back... instead of just the government. Oh and individuals can take advantage of the same tax breaks.... including working middleclass entrepreneurs
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post Dec 13 2006, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE (Trespass @ Dec 13 2006, 03:33 PM) *
Why would there be a recession without the current death tax? Just as a legitimate question. (oh and just because i don't like yours doesn't mean i like the one we have now... im still against it)

And you talk about the farm... but most likely the farm is mortgaged, with only cash in account for payments...

And again, you talk about tax breaks, but they are there for a reason. To promote businesses to help on their own accord. You call the businesses wrong for obeying the law? I guess you can be against tax breaks in general, but i think they promote capatilism by letting people decide how to give back... instead of just the government. Oh and individuals can take advantage of the same tax breaks.... including working middleclass entrepreneurs


The reason why an economy would likely collapse without it is basically the snowball effect. Generation after generation hands down their assets, and it just grows. When too many people are able to do this, you end up in a situation where 1% of the population owns 99% of the wealth in the country. And I think, if history has taught us anything, that's bad.


QUOTE (Trespass @ Dec 13 2006, 03:35 PM) *
BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE MIDDLE CLASS
i happen to have a finance degree on my wall, i wouldn't say im a complete moron (Or "brainwashed) on the subject just because YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW on what is right and wrong regarding taxs... the current system tends to agree with me actually.


Hey, I have one of those too.


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post Dec 13 2006, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Dec 13 2006, 03:37 PM) *
The reason why an economy would likely collapse without it is basically the snowball effect. Generation after generation hands down their assets, and it just grows. When too many people are able to do this, you end up in a situation where 1% of the population owns 99% of the wealth in the country. And I think, if history has taught us anything, that's bad.
Hey, I have one of those too.

Yeah i thought you did, but just saying so you wouldn't get the idea you are the only "educated" person and talk so matter of fact because of it.

And i would think you would understand how money works if you have a degree. You say only 1% would own the money...like that money is just THEIRS and just gets suspended while everyone goes poor. I guess you forget that money (unless in a tin can that forsaken is sitting on) GOES BACK INTO THE SYSTEM. If in a bank, the bank lends it out to others so they can turn it into MORE MONEY. If in stocks it filters into the economy by raising and lowering the value of companies and giving them capital to increase their business creating JOBS.

Money never goes stationary, AND ALWAYS is available to those who need it to make their own riches.

And the government taxes don't really make a difference honestly on whether people are poor or rich and how they stay that way
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post Dec 13 2006, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE (Trespass @ Dec 13 2006, 03:46 PM) *
Yeah i thought you did, but just saying so you wouldn't get the idea you are the only "educated" person and talk so matter of fact because of it.

And i would think you would understand how money works if you have a degree. You say only 1% would own the money...like that money is just THEIRS and just gets suspended while everyone goes poor. I guess you forget that money (unless in a tin can that forsaken is sitting on) GOES BACK INTO THE SYSTEM. If in a bank, the bank lends it out to others so they can turn it into MORE MONEY. If in stocks it filters into the economy by raising and lowering the value of companies and giving them capital to increase their business creating JOBS.

Money never goes stationary, AND ALWAYS is available to those who need it to make their own riches.

And the government taxes don't really make a difference honestly on whether people are poor or rich and how they stay that way


Sigh.... you have got to be kidding.

Well, your genius has inspired me. I am clearly wrong. You win.


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post Dec 13 2006, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Dec 13 2006, 03:57 PM) *
Sigh.... you have got to be kidding.

Well, your genius has inspired me. I am clearly wrong. You win.

feel free to show me where i am wrong... unless my sarcasticatron is off. Because im simply restating principles taught in Tech... maybe they are the old system of finance and money. Please feel free to tell me about how money ACTUALLY works so i can get rid these damn beliefs taught in college.
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- Timbo   The Liberty Amendment   Dec 11 2006, 09:27 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE Proposing an amendment to the Constitution o...   Dec 11 2006, 09:44 PM
|- - Overlord   QUOTE (impala454 @ Dec 11 2006, 09:44 PM)...   Dec 12 2006, 11:52 PM
|- - Throwdown   QUOTE (Overlord @ Dec 12 2006, 11:52 PM) ...   Dec 13 2006, 08:41 AM
- - Timbo   You're very silly. The tax garnished from inc...   Dec 12 2006, 11:36 PM
|- - pebkac   QUOTE (Timbo @ Dec 12 2006, 11:36 PM) AVA...   Dec 13 2006, 03:03 AM
|- - Throwdown   QUOTE (pebkac @ Dec 13 2006, 03:03 AM) Y...   Dec 13 2006, 08:56 AM
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- - impala454   timbo, if you replaced the current income tax syst...   Dec 13 2006, 12:16 AM
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|- - impala454   QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Dec 13 2006, 11:35 ...   Dec 13 2006, 11:54 AM
- - Renegadepeon   I support a national sales tax. It is a fair tax ...   Dec 13 2006, 07:21 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Dec 13 2006, 07:21 ...   Dec 13 2006, 09:22 AM
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- - Renegadepeon   Impala, you are arguing against something that wou...   Dec 13 2006, 11:59 AM
- - FORSAKENR320   fuck you and your death tax. why work hard to ea...   Dec 13 2006, 12:05 PM
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|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Dec 13 2006, 12:09 ...   Dec 13 2006, 12:24 PM
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