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Timbo
post Dec 11 2006, 09:27 PM
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What excites me the most is the bit about Ron Paul's legislation.


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impala454
post Dec 13 2006, 12:16 AM
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timbo, if you replaced the current income tax system with a flat tax or national sales tax, you still cut the govt budget by an insane amount, as well as completely screw over the poorest people & middle class. i'm not sure if you realize how income tax currently works, as the more money you make, the larger the % the govt takes.

i got the 2.2 trillion number from some shitty website... forgot where. not sure if it's accurate but it seems consistent with our GDP of ~13 trillion.
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post Dec 13 2006, 03:51 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Dec 13 2006, 12:16 AM) *
i'm not sure if you realize how income tax currently works, as the more money you make, the larger the % the govt takes.

Isn't there some kinda cap on that? Doesnt that percentage plateau at some point and those people making millions actually save some money? Or am I mistaken?
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post Dec 13 2006, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE (TTUAthleticTrainer @ Dec 13 2006, 03:51 AM) *
Isn't there some kinda cap on that? Doesnt that percentage plateau at some point and those people making millions actually save some money? Or am I mistaken?

here's the tax bracket breakdown for 06 for single people:
10% $0 -- $7,550
15% $7,551 -- $30,650
25% $30,651 -- $74,200
28% $74,201 -- $154,800
33% $154,801 -- $336,550
35% $336,551+

basically the way it works right now, the richest people pay the most in taxes by far. they don't ever really "save" money since it's a percentage, they simply take home a smaller percentage of what they make.
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post Dec 13 2006, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Dec 13 2006, 09:12 AM) *
here's the tax bracket breakdown for 06 for single people:
10% $0 -- $7,550
15% $7,551 -- $30,650
25% $30,651 -- $74,200
28% $74,201 -- $154,800
33% $154,801 -- $336,550
35% $336,551+

basically the way it works right now, the richest people pay the most in taxes by far. they don't ever really "save" money since it's a percentage, they simply take home a smaller percentage of what they make.


The rich pay the least in taxes. Literally. Talk to some accounting professors if you don't believe me. It is very likely you pay more taxes than those making several million a year.


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- Timbo   The Liberty Amendment   Dec 11 2006, 09:27 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE Proposing an amendment to the Constitution o...   Dec 11 2006, 09:44 PM
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|- - Throwdown   QUOTE (Overlord @ Dec 12 2006, 11:52 PM) ...   Dec 13 2006, 08:41 AM
- - Timbo   You're very silly. The tax garnished from inc...   Dec 12 2006, 11:36 PM
|- - pebkac   QUOTE (Timbo @ Dec 12 2006, 11:36 PM) AVA...   Dec 13 2006, 03:03 AM
|- - Throwdown   QUOTE (pebkac @ Dec 13 2006, 03:03 AM) Y...   Dec 13 2006, 08:56 AM
|- - pebkac   QUOTE (Throwdown @ Dec 13 2006, 08:56 AM)...   Dec 13 2006, 12:41 PM
- - impala454   timbo, if you replaced the current income tax syst...   Dec 13 2006, 12:16 AM
|- - TTUAthleticTrainer   QUOTE (impala454 @ Dec 13 2006, 12:16 AM)...   Dec 13 2006, 03:51 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (TTUAthleticTrainer @ Dec 13 2006, 03...   Dec 13 2006, 09:12 AM
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|- - impala454   QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Dec 13 2006, 11:35 ...   Dec 13 2006, 11:54 AM
- - Renegadepeon   I support a national sales tax. It is a fair tax ...   Dec 13 2006, 07:21 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Dec 13 2006, 07:21 ...   Dec 13 2006, 09:22 AM
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- - Throwdown   if anything, the billionaire business visionaries ...   Dec 13 2006, 09:15 AM
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- - Renegadepeon   So that's fair? So a guy who works just as ha...   Dec 13 2006, 03:47 PM
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