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Hartmann
post Nov 20 2006, 07:42 PM
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http://www.tmz.com/2006/11/20/kramers-raci...caught-on-tape/

Shouldn't have done it, shouldn't have been heckled... Sad turn of events.


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GOB
post Nov 21 2006, 01:26 PM
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i have no sympathy. my ancestors were persecuted when they came to this country, as well.

grow the fuck up and move on with life.
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post Nov 21 2006, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Nov 21 2006, 01:26 PM) *
i have no sympathy. my ancestors were persecuted when they came to this country, as well.

grow the fuck up and move on with life.


Yes, but are you still persecuted in this country? No.

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post Nov 21 2006, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE (pebkac @ Nov 21 2006, 01:34 PM) *
Yes, but are you still persecuted in this country? No.

are black people? no. fucking. way.


are there not laws requiring companies to hire minorities, no matter how under-qualified? are they not admitted to major universities over more qualified white people?


i bet that's a nice crutch, being able to sue the shit out of somebody because they didn't give you a job or let you into a school.
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post Nov 21 2006, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Nov 21 2006, 01:37 PM) *
are black people? no. fucking. way.


You just saw a video of a man on stage saying black people should be lynched and calling them nigger and you don't think there's racism in this country?

It takes a lot more than anti-discrimination laws to make racism disappear.

And it's not like our legal system convicts blacks disproportionately to whites. Or that our prisons are filled with far more blacks than whites. Or that a Black man with a masters makes less than a white man with a bachelors.

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post Nov 21 2006, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE (pebkac @ Nov 21 2006, 03:05 PM) *
You just saw a video of a man on stage saying black people should be lynched and calling them nigger and you don't think there's racism in this country?

It takes a lot more than anti-discrimination laws to make racism disappear.

And it's not like our legal system convicts blacks disproportionately to whites. Or that our prisons are filled with far more blacks than whites. Or that a Black man with a masters makes less than a white man with a bachelors.

uh, you were saying persecution earlier, not racism. completely different. one guy standing on stage saying "nigger" means nothing except a career in the toilet.


they're not being kicked out of the US because of the color of their skin. they're not being killed solely because of their race. and despite what hippies and minorities may think, they're not being "held down" by "the man".

yes, there is a lot of racism in this country, but people aren't being lynched on street corners and we're not putting them on rafts and sending them to other countries or keeping them in cages. it's not persecution by any means.
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post Nov 21 2006, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Nov 21 2006, 06:29 PM) *
uh, you were saying persecution earlier, not racism. completely different. one guy standing on stage saying "nigger" means nothing except a career in the toilet.


Yes, but there was another part to your post:

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are there not laws requiring companies to hire minorities, no matter how under-qualified? are they not admitted to major universities over more qualified white people?


i bet that's a nice crutch, being able to sue the shit out of somebody because they didn't give you a job or let you into a school.


Please spare me the poor oppressed white man racket.

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maybe blacks commit more crimes?? just a guess here


http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/tables/jailracetab.htm
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762156.html

Blacks make up 39% of the prison population, but only 12% of the general population. You honestly mean to tell me you believe blacks commit crime at more than 3 times the rate of white people?

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pure speculation.


No it's not. That's a statistic from the department of labor from one of my sociology classes. I can't find the stat right now and don't feel like digging for any other stats on the subject. The point is, at the same level of education the average white male makes a lot more than the average black male.


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post Nov 22 2006, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE (pebkac @ Nov 21 2006, 11:39 PM) *
Blacks make up 39% of the prison population, but only 12% of the general population. You honestly mean to tell me you believe blacks commit crime at more than 3 times the rate of white people?


Yes, I do.

When's the last time a mob of white people burned down and looted a store because they were angry that a group of people they don't agree with was having a peaceful demonstration? When's the last time a mob of white people took advantage of a bad natural situation and looted flooded stores or go completely lawless raping and killing people because there weren't police to stop them? When's the last time white people rioted in the streets of L.A. stealing from all the stores they could and pulling people from their cars and dragging them to their death?

After katrina, the evacuees who went to houston, a strong majority of whom were black, caused the murder rate in houston to go up by 20% and the armed robbery by 11%.

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In Britain blacks are responsible for 26% of the robberies, 10% of the sexual offences and 14% of the drug offences despite the fact they make up only 2% of the population in the UK. (Source: Statistics on Race and the Criminal Justice System.) Sixty-three percent of mugging victims in London reported that their attackers were black. In Britain, "almost twice as many black people are in prison as at university, according to a report by the Commission for Racial Equality."


So it's just not in this country.


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QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Nov 22 2006, 10:46 AM) *
Yes, I do.

When's the last time a mob of white people burned down and looted a store because they were angry that a group of people they don't agree with was having a peaceful demonstration? When's the last time a mob of white people took advantage of a bad natural situation and looted flooded stores or go completely lawless raping and killing people because there weren't police to stop them? When's the last time white people rioted in the streets of L.A. stealing from all the stores they could and pulling people from their cars and dragging them to their death?

After katrina, the evacuees who went to houston, a strong majority of whom were black, caused the murder rate in houston to go up by 20% and the armed robbery by 11%.
So it's just not in this country.





i agree with almost everything in this post except the katrina situation. all people would take advantage in that situation, not just black people.


but to add to what you said, i also wanted to add in something i read a while ago, but can't seem to find now (kinda pissing me off) it mentioned statistics on who donates and volunteers for community service work, such as red cross, and other charitys, etc. blacks were the very bottom.


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