Nov 20 2006, 07:42 PM
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http://www.tmz.com/2006/11/20/kramers-raci...caught-on-tape/
Shouldn't have done it, shouldn't have been heckled... Sad turn of events. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Nov 21 2006, 11:18 AM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
1. He definitely went too far. You can't be in a public forum like that and lose it, no matter what the situation is. Good comedians deal with hecklers in their own way... they ignore them, or make jokes about them which ultimately backfire the heckles and make the rest of the crowd laugh and the hecklers look stupid.
2. The word "nigger" has just as many contexts as any other word. If you use it when you're mad at a black person, in general it's a derogatory context. If you use it as slang then it's a harmless context. In today's society I'd say the latter is way more common. If I call my friend a bitch, that's one thing. If I call some lady I don't know a bitch, that's another thing. If a black person nowadays hears someone else using the word as slang towards their friend and gets upset about it, they're too damn sensitive. For Kramer's one outburst, there are millions of other times in comedy where the word nigger was used with no repercussion and to probably a lot of laughter. 3. "cracker" is nowhere near as bad as "nigger" when used in the derogatory sense. 4. anyone who brings up slavery is a fucking idiot. there's not a black person alive today who's parent, grandparent, and probably great grandparent who was ever a slave. same thing with white people and slave owners. those black guys that heckled kramer grew up just like i did, under the same rights as me. i'm no history buff but i'm sure if you went back far enough in history you could find just about any race that's wronged another. no one seems to bitch about it and dwell on it as much as black people though. |
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Hartmann Kramer Goes Racist Nov 20 2006, 07:42 PM
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Trespass QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Nov 20 2006, 08:58 ... Nov 20 2006, 09:02 PM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Nov 20 2006, 08:58 ... Nov 20 2006, 10:10 PM
Renegadepeon QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Nov 20 2006, 10:10 PM)... Nov 20 2006, 10:27 PM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Nov 20 2006, 10:27 ... Nov 21 2006, 02:52 AM
jonathan83 QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Nov 21 2006, 02:52 AM)... Nov 21 2006, 05:08 AM

pebkac QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Nov 21 2006, 05:08 AM... Nov 21 2006, 11:42 AM
Renegadepeon QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Nov 21 2006, 02:52 AM)... Nov 21 2006, 07:58 AM
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Testm0nkey the youtube video of this is posted in asdf
hes t... Nov 20 2006, 09:19 PM
Spectatrix Everyone's a little bit racist sometimes... Nov 20 2006, 10:24 PM
Trespass QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Nov 20 2006, 10:24 PM... Nov 20 2006, 10:29 PM
Spectatrix That too. I <3 Avenue Q. Nov 20 2006, 10:34 PM
TetraGrammaton Cleric heh, I would have called him a pineapple.
Anyhow,... Nov 21 2006, 04:09 AM
chook Song says what we need to do about this stupid men... Nov 21 2006, 09:45 AM
cupcake the simple truth is there are other ways to deal w... Nov 21 2006, 09:46 AM
Divergent Reality bit of an apology
only part of it Nov 21 2006, 11:08 AM
woody apparently free speech ends with nigger Nov 21 2006, 11:44 AM
lamont's lament QUOTE (woody @ Nov 21 2006, 11:44 AM) app... Nov 21 2006, 12:25 PM

Divergent Reality QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Nov 21 2006, 12... Nov 21 2006, 04:54 PM

Hartmann QUOTE (Divergent Reality @ Nov 21 2006, 04... Nov 21 2006, 05:11 PM
pebkac QUOTE (woody @ Nov 21 2006, 11:44 AM) app... Nov 21 2006, 01:14 PM
Trespass wow... you think "free speech" means you... Nov 21 2006, 01:24 PM
lamont's lament i have no sympathy. my ancestors were persecuted ... Nov 21 2006, 01:26 PM
Trespass QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Nov 21 2006, 01... Nov 21 2006, 01:28 PM

lamont's lament QUOTE (Trespass @ Nov 21 2006, 01:28 PM) ... Nov 21 2006, 01:32 PM
pebkac QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Nov 21 2006, 01... Nov 21 2006, 01:34 PM
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pebkac QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Nov 21 2006, 01... Nov 21 2006, 03:05 PM
impala454 QUOTE (pebkac @ Nov 21 2006, 03:05 PM) An... Nov 21 2006, 04:10 PM
lamont's lament QUOTE (pebkac @ Nov 21 2006, 03:05 PM) Yo... Nov 21 2006, 06:29 PM
pebkac QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Nov 21 2006, 06... Nov 21 2006, 11:39 PM
impala454 QUOTE (pebkac @ Nov 21 2006, 11:39 PM) Pl... Nov 22 2006, 09:52 AM

pysex QUOTE (impala454 @ Nov 22 2006, 09:52 AM)... Nov 22 2006, 10:35 AM
Renegadepeon QUOTE (pebkac @ Nov 21 2006, 11:39 PM) Bl... Nov 22 2006, 10:46 AM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Nov 22 2006, 10:46 ... Nov 23 2006, 06:49 AM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Nov 22 2006, 10:46 ... Nov 23 2006, 07:41 AM
Spectatrix Fuck all the niggers, spics, chinks, japs, cracker... Nov 21 2006, 02:02 PM
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lamont's lament QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Nov 21 2006, 02:07 PM... Nov 21 2006, 02:08 PM
Spectatrix QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Nov 21 2006, 01... Nov 21 2006, 02:50 PM
Testm0nkey i dont think the crazy part is when he said nigger... Nov 21 2006, 02:19 PM
chook at least we aren't paying attention to OJ now... Nov 21 2006, 03:38 PM
FORSAKENR320 more blacks are in jail because more blacks get ca... Nov 21 2006, 05:15 PM
Psykopath QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Nov 21 2006, 05:15 ... Nov 21 2006, 05:47 PM
Dr. Gonzo black people get shitty lawyers and white juries
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Trespass Im not by any means a bleeding heart for affirmati... Nov 21 2006, 06:10 PM
Testm0nkey RE: Kramer Goes Racist Nov 21 2006, 06:42 PM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE I guess discrimination isn't the word, b... Nov 21 2006, 09:16 PM
chook I remeber getting yelled at by this black guys at ... Nov 22 2006, 02:33 AM
pysex holy jesus....
that wasn't just a few racial... Nov 22 2006, 10:34 AM
FORSAKENR320 RE: Kramer Goes Racist Nov 23 2006, 07:33 AM
woody QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Nov 23 2006, 05:49 ... Nov 23 2006, 02:16 PM
Jim You all are a bunch of fucking whiners and need to... Nov 23 2006, 02:18 PM
Throwdown two things
1. what Richards said was despicable. ... Nov 25 2006, 06:38 PM
Trespass QUOTE (Throwdown @ Nov 25 2006, 06:38 PM)... Nov 25 2006, 07:55 PM
woody http://apnews.myway.com/article/20061124/D8LJNIB00... Nov 25 2006, 08:08 PM![]() ![]() |
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