Nov 8 2006, 09:43 AM
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I'm interested in seeing what the Democrats do in power but the following stuff scares the crap out of me.
Things I am glad to see happening:
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Nov 8 2006, 03:18 PM
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![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,402 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
A decent explanation as to why increasing the minimum wage won't help as much as people think: http://ingrimayne.com/econ/AllocatingRatio...ceCeilings.html
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Nov 8 2006, 09:49 PM
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A decent explanation as to why increasing the minimum wage won't help as much as people think: http://ingrimayne.com/econ/AllocatingRatio...ceCeilings.html You only think it's good because you agree with it. -------------------- ![]() |
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Nov 9 2006, 08:25 AM
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![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,402 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
You only think it's good because you agree with it. No, I think it's good because it follows the basic laws of economics instead of using power as the basis. You can't really argue with Smith and Mills, mostly 'cause they're dead. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Nov 9 2006, 08:55 AM
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No, I think it's good because it follows the basic laws of economics instead of using power as the basis. You can't really argue with Smith and Mills, mostly 'cause they're dead. You can't have your cake and eat it too. If you're going to argue (which you have in the past) that based on "inflation" the price of gas is actually really cheap, then I'm going to take that same "inflation" and claim minimum wage is currently too low. It has not seen an increase since 1997, almost 10 years. But no doubt, "inflation" has definitely made everything more expensive. Here's a nice historical tidbit on the last time minimum wage was raised so the anti labor class can shut the fuck up about their "the world will end" theories on if minimum wage gets an increase: QUOTE Recent history offers something of a counterargument here: During a 1996 debate about raising the minimum wage from $4.25 to $5.15, opponents said that the increase would cost between 100,000 and 625,000 new jobs. In 1997, the non-farm economy created more than 3 million new jobs, unemployment was at its lowest rate in 28 years, the gross domestic product expanded by 3.8 percent, and the growth in earnings took off. In addition, real average hourly earnings saw their largest increases in 21 years. And in 1999, New Hampshire ranked first in the country with a 5.5-percent increase in jobs from the previous year. Strikingly similar argument. Yet, that didn't happen last time. Nor the time before. And won't happen now. There is definitely something wrong with your "economics". Because what you claim in theory, does not even come close to happening in the real economic world. Actually, arguably, the opposite happens. -------------------- ![]() |
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