Oct 19 2006, 09:59 PM
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Oct 25 2006, 04:13 PM
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I always love the "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." quote people try to use to justify thier argument. When the argument can very well be what do you consider "liberty"? One might consider safety and well being as a liberty. One might view the pursuit of criminals before they hurt us as a liberty "we" enjoy.
Throwing a quote or hypothetical out there is one thing, proving that something is actually wrong in a sense of precedence or the constitution is a little harder to do. SAYING someone is facist is much easier than proving how a person is currently and continually acting against the rules and law of the republic he is leading. Dont like policy, thats part of a democratic right to disagree. That democracy taking part in a policy that some of the citizens of the country simply don't like... hardly a violation of the democracy. The country is a democracy for a reason, checks and balances. If THE CONGRESS and THE EXECUTIVE branch enact something that is unconstitutional (happens many a time in our past over less than horrible things) then it is THE JUDICIAL branches job to overturn it. To say that a BILL is facist when it has went through TWO branches of the government, and it was passed off of a previous ruling that the THIRD branch made, seems.... far fetched. Especially since it can still be reviewed... and then re-reviewed if need be... or reppealed by congress... or amended to the constitution. But by all means, hate the bill (assuming you take the time to read it), hell that is your right. |
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Timbo Good Special Comment Oct 19 2006, 09:59 PM
Spectatrix Damn. Very powerful. Very nice. Oct 19 2006, 10:55 PM
Psykopath QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 19 2006, 11:55 PM... Oct 19 2006, 11:43 PM
Jim TLDR Oct 19 2006, 11:00 PM
impala454 geez...
guy compares bush to internment of japane... Oct 19 2006, 11:28 PM
Divergent Reality QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 20 2006, 12:28 AM)... Oct 19 2006, 11:41 PM
pebkac QUOTE (Divergent Reality @ Oct 20 2006, 12... Oct 20 2006, 11:08 AM
Trespass Hamdi v. Rumsfeld which this new legislation finds... Oct 20 2006, 12:29 AM
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Timbo http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2006...hs_sp... Oct 25 2006, 02:01 AM
Spectatrix QUOTE (Timbo @ Oct 25 2006, 02:01 AM) htt... Oct 25 2006, 03:57 PM
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pebkac QUOTE (Trespass @ Oct 25 2006, 05:13 PM) ... Oct 26 2006, 01:45 PM
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pebkac QUOTE (Trespass @ Oct 26 2006, 07:45 PM) ... Oct 26 2006, 07:38 PM
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Overlord The chances of being killed by terrorism are a who... Oct 25 2006, 05:22 PM
Trespass QUOTE (Overlord @ Oct 25 2006, 06:22 PM) ... Oct 25 2006, 05:52 PM
Dr. Gonzo Saftey is not liberty. Both of these are rights un... Oct 25 2006, 08:30 PM
Trespass QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 25 2006, 09:30 PM)... Oct 25 2006, 10:36 PM
Dr. Gonzo I wish I was wrong, but I am right. Oct 26 2006, 01:34 AM
Overlord this is for trespass Oct 26 2006, 06:49 PM
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