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impala454
post Oct 3 2006, 11:22 PM
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Just installed this tonight, pretty sweet... the flip3d task switching is freakin tight as hell. last time I installed it was beta 1, and this version seems way more polished.

also didn't realize they have their own new document format... "xps" (similiar to pdf). don't know much about it, but they have a 300 page document full of color photos & tables and the entire document is like 12 MB
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post Oct 19 2006, 11:42 AM
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Ok... First of all, I am not as much of a Mac Nut as I used to be, I have a new thing I am crazy about, and I know at least one person on this board who knows what that is. Since he is the only one on these boards that I am aware is familier with this topic, I see no point discussing it with the rest of you right now.

Second, John, windows being far more customizeable is a laugh. Maybe in terms of the GUI it is, but for system operation it is not. It is called Terminal, learn it, love it.

impala454, do you even know what Expose is? Even the equivalent in Linux is far better than flip 3d, which breaks usibility by not allowing you to see all the windows at once in various layouts. Also the Vista knock-off of dashboard is a laugh cause it wastes desktop space an memory. You don't need widgets always in your face, just when you need the information.

Oh, one more thing, I look forward to seeing the new BSOD in Vista. The Mac equivilant of BSOD is so rare, it is actually worth taking a picture of.

lamont's lament, did you even go to NAB?

But, yeah it would be nice if there were more games for Mac. Those that do exist actually run quite well though. When I was at the UP, we would often have LAN parties, and the machine that hosted was a G5 Power Mac.


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post Oct 19 2006, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE (Final_Cut_Guru @ Oct 19 2006, 12:42 PM) *
impala454, do you even know what Expose is? Even the equivalent in Linux is far better than flip 3d, which breaks usibility by not allowing you to see all the windows at once in various layouts. Also the Vista knock-off of dashboard is a laugh cause it wastes desktop space an memory. You don't need widgets always in your face, just when you need the information.

Well if you go back and look what I said, you'll notice I didn't claim flip 3d is any better, I asked why you think it's a "copy". Obviously you feel that flip 3d is completely different than the Mac one, which is fine, I'm sure it is, which is why it's not a copy.

And maybe you'd like to explain this miraculous Dashboard that doesn't use memory. That would be a neat trick by any OS.

It's hilarious to me how defensive you OSX freaks are getting when people start talking about Vista.
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post Oct 19 2006, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 19 2006, 02:42 PM) *
It's hilarious to me how defensive you OSX freaks are getting when people start talking about Vista.


I don't have anything else to say in this thread except this...

It amazes me how much you bash other operating systems, yet from what I've read, Windows is the only thing you really ever use. Granted, I'm guessing you've touched Linux a few times for CS stuff and maybe you've looked at OS X a little, but it really doesn't sound like you have actually taken the time or money to purchase one of the machines to do a little research of your own.

To me it's all about preference and getting the job done. If a Windows box will get a particular job done better than a Linux box, then that's what I am going to use (talking about development here). And the vice versa is also true.


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post Oct 19 2006, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 19 2006, 03:14 PM) *
I don't have anything else to say in this thread except this...

It amazes me how much you bash other operating systems, yet from what I've read, Windows is the only thing you really ever use. Granted, I'm guessing you've touched Linux a few times for CS stuff and maybe you've looked at OS X a little, but it really doesn't sound like you have actually taken the time or money to purchase one of the machines to do a little research of your own.

that's just it though I don't bash other OSs at all. it's you guys who come into any thread about windows or anything microsoft and talk about how much "blahblahOS" is better and how much windows copies it. it honestly is getting old. i'll admit I used to be a jackass when someone started threads about linux or mac, but it's been a very long time.

i've used plenty of linux for development at work, and can't stand it. i'll take the .net 05 debugger any day. as far as home use, i spent quite a bit of time over several years messing with linux and found a lot of things I liked, and some I didn't. The main reason I don't use it as a primary desktop is it's just too damn much to go through to get the thing set up, hardware drivers are occasionally hard to come by (although I'm sure it's gotten better), and I can't play my games on it. i've reinstalled my system a couple times from vista beta 2 to vista rc1 x86 to vista rc1 x64, and once the download is done then to vista rc2 x64, and wow the installation is quick. from boot off the dvd to ready to use in about 30 minutes, with almost no user input.

as far as OSX goes, I honestly would love to get a copy of it and check it out some day. I even went to their site the other day to see how I could get it and try it, but all I find is this page: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebO...nplm=MA453Z%2FA which tells me I have to have a PowerPC G5, G4, or G3 processor. I'm not about to go out and buy a Mac computer just to try out their OS. If there is some way to try it out on my PC I'd love to try it (I thought they supported PCs now?).
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- impala454   Vista RC1   Oct 3 2006, 11:22 PM
- - Overlord   i tried it, wasn't impressed, no reason for me...   Oct 4 2006, 06:09 AM
- - Hartmann   Way more polished, still uses too much memory. I w...   Oct 4 2006, 10:39 AM
- - impala454   hmm i haven't really paid much attention to th...   Oct 4 2006, 01:11 PM
- - Hartmann   Have you actually used OS X? Everything is pretty ...   Oct 4 2006, 01:16 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 4 2006, 02:16 PM)Lookin...   Oct 4 2006, 01:23 PM
- - Jessica   it doesnt look like OS X to me....it looks like a ...   Oct 4 2006, 01:35 PM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (Jessica @ Oct 4 2006, 02:35 PM) it...   Oct 21 2006, 07:45 PM
- - Hartmann   QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 4 2006, 01:23 PM)uhh.....   Oct 4 2006, 02:19 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 4 2006, 03:19 PM)Again,...   Oct 4 2006, 03:00 PM
- - Hartmann   QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 4 2006, 03:00 PM)so......   Oct 4 2006, 03:15 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 4 2006, 04:15 PM)The sc...   Oct 4 2006, 04:19 PM
- - Hartmann   I am going home from work but I'll reply when ...   Oct 4 2006, 04:26 PM
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- - Spectatrix   Jesus H. Christ, Impala, chill out. You're ma...   Oct 4 2006, 05:01 PM
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- - impala454   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 4 2006, 06:01 PM)Jesu...   Oct 4 2006, 06:23 PM
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