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impala454
post Oct 16 2006, 01:05 AM
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I'm watching Dateline NBC right now... they're doing a segment on sexual predators... something is really bugging me here. Here's the situation:

Cops + Dateline set up inside a nice house. The cops get online and start chatting with guys, posing as 13 year old girls wanting to have sex. They invite the guy over, have an 18 year old girl posing as the 13 year old, and this girl flirts with them when they get there until Dateline pops in, embarasses the guy, then the cops arrest the guy (who is 28). WTF!?! Now I'm not condoning 28 year olds having sex with 13 year olds, but this is bullshit... the guy never did anything illegal. It's still on NBC right now.
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post Oct 16 2006, 04:58 PM
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For these guys they catch, the doctors, managers, marines, etc., they are all caught doing something they know is wrong. Not one of them sits there stunned saying, oh? should i not have done that? but she asked me to?!!

1) Just because they say it's their first time and they've never touched a minor, doesn't mean its true. 2) To say it's okay if it really IS a 13 year old chick who really wants old man dick, is sick.


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post Oct 17 2006, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE (Tygriss @ Oct 16 2006, 05:58 PM) *
For these guys they catch, the doctors, managers, marines, etc., they are all caught doing something they know is wrong. Not one of them sits there stunned saying, oh? should i not have done that? but she asked me to?!!

1) Just because they say it's their first time and they've never touched a minor, doesn't mean its true. 2) To say it's okay if it really IS a 13 year old chick who really wants old man dick, is sick.


just read this thread and thought i would pop in

i agree with her


i have no sympathy for sexual predators. if you send explicit messages to someone you think is a minor than you are a sexual predator and have probably done it before and would do it again. I hope they rot in jail.


QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 17 2006, 10:27 PM) *
but that's the whole thing, these guys didn't solicit a minor for sex, they solicited a sick headed cop acting like a 13 yr old girl


but they thought the person was 13.... therefore they are a sick fuck.
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post Oct 18 2006, 12:34 AM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Oct 17 2006, 11:27 PM) *
but they thought the person was 13.... therefore they are a sick fuck.

right, and i completely agree, but if you could be arrested for being a sick fuck, half the people on this board would be behind bars right now. and I'm not sympathizing with them, I'm wondering how the hell the cops can get away with this kind of shit, and why they're holed up in a damn house impersonating 13 yr old girls.

the fact is, these guys did not break any law, and there's no evidence to say they would have if the police officer had never impersonated an overly-horny girl to them. people will say things online that they wouldn't say in person. This board is a perfect example. I've met several of you for real (mostly at parties) and had a good time, yet on here we can get into fierce arguments. Who's to say (and arrest) someone would have done something given certain circumstances (circumstances which are completely being made up by the cops)? Sure these guys are sick for thinking they'd have sex with a 13 year old, but unless a real 13 year old girl gets online, sex talks with the guy, then gives him her address and begs him to come over, this never happens, and crime is never committed. Even if the cops get a real 13 year old girl on and tell her what to type, it's still not a real situation.

If these practices are considered ok, what's to stop them from sending you some fake tax form and nailing you for tax fraud? Or buying you a few extra drinks at the bar and then following you out and giving you a PI ticket?

another thing i noticed, was the vast majority of these guys were of arab descent, where they have extremely young marraiges. i'm not saying it's an excuse, i'm just saying it was interesting to note.
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post Oct 18 2006, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 18 2006, 01:34 AM) *
If these practices are considered ok, what's to stop them from sending you some fake tax form and nailing you for tax fraud? Or buying you a few extra drinks at the bar and then following you out and giving you a PI ticket?


did you know that TABC can hire children under the age of 18 to attempt to buy alcohol under their supervision (them standing outside or somewhere else)...if the child is sold alcohol then BIG TROUBLE


sting operations are used all the time to convict criminals.... everywhere from cops going undercover to buy drugs to cops selling drugs themselves to make arrests.

the only difference is that in this case, the person only THINKS they are doing something illegal (because lets face it, they know fully well its illegal to fuck a 13 year old). The reason for this is, cops cant hire underage kids to talk dirty on the internet. The state of mind of the criminal is all that matters.... same with conspiracy to commit murder being illegal... STATE OF MIND.... and despite what spivey said, this is not a thought crime... because the THOUGHTS were transformed to WRITTEN ACCOUNTS OF A DEVIANT WANTING TO FUCK A 13 YEAR OLD.
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- impala454   Dateline   Oct 16 2006, 01:05 AM
- - Divergent Reality   yep. its not the first time. they found out that...   Oct 16 2006, 01:14 AM
- - woody   intent? i thought what was bullshit is when they ...   Oct 16 2006, 04:12 AM
- - impala454   well it just pisses me off... these guys they arre...   Oct 16 2006, 07:54 AM
- - pebkac   Actually, in most states, you could have criminal ...   Oct 16 2006, 11:48 AM
- - Testm0nkey   entrapment. but most of the guys caught probably ...   Oct 16 2006, 02:37 PM
- - woody   actually alot of them do, they usually give you so...   Oct 16 2006, 02:43 PM
- - chook   entrapment only happens if they lie to you if you ...   Oct 16 2006, 03:35 PM
- - Testm0nkey   there are a lot of situations to which entrapment ...   Oct 16 2006, 03:48 PM
|- - pysex   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Oct 16 2006, 04:48 PM...   Oct 16 2006, 04:17 PM
- - Divergent Reality   thats why you ask 'so... you a cop?' and ...   Oct 16 2006, 04:20 PM
- - Testm0nkey   yeah most people know this. so this makes me beli...   Oct 16 2006, 04:24 PM
- - Dr. Gonzo   I am split on this show. When I first saw it my re...   Oct 16 2006, 04:31 PM
- - Renegadepeon   I don't think I feel sorry for these guys. DO...   Oct 16 2006, 04:45 PM
|- - Dr. Gonzo   QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Oct 16 2006, 05:45 ...   Oct 16 2006, 05:46 PM
|- - Renegadepeon   QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 16 2006, 06:46 PM)...   Oct 16 2006, 05:51 PM
- - Tygriss   For these guys they catch, the doctors, managers, ...   Oct 16 2006, 04:58 PM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (Tygriss @ Oct 16 2006, 05:58 PM) F...   Oct 17 2006, 10:27 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Jessica @ Oct 17 2006, 11:27 PM) b...   Oct 18 2006, 12:34 AM
|- - jwttu   QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 18 2006, 01:34 AM)...   Oct 18 2006, 07:06 AM
||- - impala454   QUOTE (jwttu @ Oct 18 2006, 08:06 AM) Yes...   Oct 18 2006, 08:35 AM
||- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 18 2006, 08:35 AM)...   Oct 18 2006, 10:15 AM
||- - impala454   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 18 2006, 11:15 AM...   Oct 18 2006, 04:05 PM
||- - lamont's lament   QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 18 2006, 05:05 PM)...   Oct 18 2006, 04:30 PM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 18 2006, 01:34 AM)...   Oct 18 2006, 05:27 PM
|- - lamont's lament   QUOTE (Jessica @ Oct 18 2006, 06:27 PM) s...   Oct 18 2006, 05:56 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Jessica @ Oct 18 2006, 06:27 PM) b...   Oct 19 2006, 09:28 AM
|- - Renegadepeon   QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 19 2006, 10:28 AM)...   Oct 19 2006, 10:07 AM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 19 2006, 10:28 AM)...   Oct 19 2006, 01:14 PM
- - Testm0nkey   I definitely dont agree with sexing of the minors ...   Oct 16 2006, 05:02 PM
- - Dogmeat   I'm all for catching sexual predators, but Dat...   Oct 16 2006, 05:09 PM
- - impala454   To me, this situation would be analagous to a cop ...   Oct 16 2006, 05:16 PM
- - Trespass   QUOTE ENTRAPMENT entrapment, n. 1. A law-enforcem...   Oct 16 2006, 05:18 PM
- - Overlord   RE: Dateline   Oct 16 2006, 05:22 PM
- - Spectatrix   It's not entrapment, it's just a type of s...   Oct 16 2006, 05:24 PM
- - impala454   ok going to a person's house with a gun and go...   Oct 16 2006, 07:09 PM
- - Dr. Gonzo   You counter arguement is moot because he did not c...   Oct 16 2006, 07:16 PM
|- - Renegadepeon   QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 16 2006, 08:16 PM)...   Oct 16 2006, 07:40 PM
|- - lamont's lament   QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 16 2006, 08:16 PM)...   Oct 18 2006, 09:27 AM
- - Trespass   So... let me get this straight: As long as a 13 y...   Oct 16 2006, 07:34 PM
- - Spectatrix   Soliciting a minor for sex is just as much a crime...   Oct 16 2006, 07:50 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 16 2006, 08:50 PM...   Oct 17 2006, 09:27 PM
- - kcroxyoursox   QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 16 2006, 06:54 AM)...   Oct 16 2006, 08:52 PM
- - woody   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Oct 16 2006, 03:48 PM...   Oct 16 2006, 08:55 PM
- - Dr. Gonzo   QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Oct 16 2006, 08:40 ...   Oct 16 2006, 10:25 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 16 2006, 11:25 PM)...   Oct 16 2006, 11:02 PM
|- - Renegadepeon   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Oct 17 2006, 12:02 AM)...   Oct 17 2006, 07:48 AM
- - Spectatrix   I'm pretty sure Zach was just disagreeing with...   Oct 17 2006, 08:28 AM
- - Testm0nkey   So how many arrests have they made so pervs can wa...   Oct 17 2006, 12:00 PM
- - Testm0nkey   This is a change of topic somewhat but has got me ...   Oct 17 2006, 12:11 PM
|- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Oct 17 2006, 12:11 PM...   Oct 17 2006, 12:37 PM
- - Testm0nkey   i thought the boys were in florida   Oct 17 2006, 12:46 PM
- - Spectatrix   Yeah, my mistake, just read some more about it. I...   Oct 17 2006, 12:48 PM
- - jwttu   basically foley wrote the law so he knew all the l...   Oct 17 2006, 04:45 PM
|- - Trespass   In past episodes they have been required to use de...   Oct 17 2006, 10:17 PM
- - Trespass   QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 18 2006, 01:34 AM)...   Oct 18 2006, 01:08 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Trespass @ Oct 18 2006, 02:08 AM) ...   Oct 18 2006, 07:57 AM
- - chook   Nobody on techsans gets the sex0r anyways!   Oct 18 2006, 02:58 AM
- - Testm0nkey   im just disgusted they show this on television as ...   Oct 18 2006, 08:48 AM
|- - cupcake   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Oct 18 2006, 09:48 AM...   Oct 18 2006, 10:39 AM
- - woody   i remember that one   Oct 18 2006, 09:34 AM
- - Trespass   QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 18 2006, 09:35 AM)...   Oct 18 2006, 10:17 AM
- - Testm0nkey   watching pedophiles stalk out someone and walk int...   Oct 18 2006, 11:02 AM
- - Divergent Reality   here get your pedo on.   Oct 18 2006, 11:34 AM
- - woody   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Oct 18 2006, 11:02 AM...   Oct 18 2006, 11:37 AM
- - Spectatrix   Righto, I see where you're coming from. There...   Oct 18 2006, 04:12 PM
- - Trespass   Everyone of these guys needs to be tazered for our...   Oct 18 2006, 04:26 PM
- - Trespass   QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Oct 18 2006, 05...   Oct 18 2006, 05:25 PM
- - Divergent Reality   more coming out of the works. lots of odd beans ...   Oct 18 2006, 09:43 PM
- - Rocky   The real tragedy is that 13 year old pussy is even...   Oct 18 2006, 10:18 PM
- - Final_Cut_Guru   It never ceases to amaze me how the american publi...   Oct 18 2006, 10:18 PM
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|- - lamont's lament   QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 19 2006, 10:57 PM)...   Oct 20 2006, 07:51 AM
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- - lamont's lament   one of the pervs they arrested tonight was wearing...   Feb 20 2007, 08:04 PM
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