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impala454
post Oct 16 2006, 01:05 AM
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I'm watching Dateline NBC right now... they're doing a segment on sexual predators... something is really bugging me here. Here's the situation:

Cops + Dateline set up inside a nice house. The cops get online and start chatting with guys, posing as 13 year old girls wanting to have sex. They invite the guy over, have an 18 year old girl posing as the 13 year old, and this girl flirts with them when they get there until Dateline pops in, embarasses the guy, then the cops arrest the guy (who is 28). WTF!?! Now I'm not condoning 28 year olds having sex with 13 year olds, but this is bullshit... the guy never did anything illegal. It's still on NBC right now.
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Spectatrix
post Oct 17 2006, 12:48 PM
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Yeah, my mistake, just read some more about it. I assumed they were all in DC. From Wiki:

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Age of consent

In the United States, 18 years of age is the age of majority (anyone below that age is considered a minor). However, the age of consent for sexual relations can differ from the age of majority, being dictated by statutory rape laws, and varies by state (it is 16 in the District of Columbia).[155]

The email that first came to light was sent to a 16-year-old former page in Louisiana, where the age of consent is 17.[156] However, the age of consent is only relevant in cases where there has been physical, sexual contact.[157] Foley has not been accused of any such contact with this youth, and has specifically denied sexual contact with any minor through his lawyer.[158] On another occasion he offered a narrower denial of "inappropriate sexual contact with a minor".[159]

The minimum age for House pages is 16.[160] Two former pages have told news organizations that Foley arranged sexual liaisons with them, but only after they turned 18 and 21, respectively.[18][17]
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Sexual communications with minors

Legislation that Mark Foley helped enact, the Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act, covers certain Internet communications with children under 18. Federal law makes it a crime to solicit sex with a child below the age of consent. However, federal law does not prohibit an individual from engaging in explicit, sexual communications with a minor per se.[157]

Some state laws criminalize certain communications with minors, even in the absence of physical sexual contact. In Florida, which Foley represented in Congress, the age of consent is 18 and attempts to seduce a minor are illegal. Louisiana makes it a felony to have sexually explicit communications over the Internet with anyone under 17. California has a law against sending sexually suggestive communications to anyone under 18.[156]

The initially publicized explicit IMs were made with two pages or former pages beginning when they were 16 or 17, and continuing until after their 18th birthdays.[2][161] One of the pages told the FBI that his contacts with Foley led to two meetings, including a dinner in San Diego in October of 2002, when the page was 17. After dinner, the page said, Foley invited him back to his hotel room and "touched his leg", but nothing untoward happened beyond that in a 20 minute visit.[45]


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- impala454   Dateline   Oct 16 2006, 01:05 AM
- - Divergent Reality   yep. its not the first time. they found out that...   Oct 16 2006, 01:14 AM
- - woody   intent? i thought what was bullshit is when they ...   Oct 16 2006, 04:12 AM
- - impala454   well it just pisses me off... these guys they arre...   Oct 16 2006, 07:54 AM
- - pebkac   Actually, in most states, you could have criminal ...   Oct 16 2006, 11:48 AM
- - Testm0nkey   entrapment. but most of the guys caught probably ...   Oct 16 2006, 02:37 PM
- - woody   actually alot of them do, they usually give you so...   Oct 16 2006, 02:43 PM
- - chook   entrapment only happens if they lie to you if you ...   Oct 16 2006, 03:35 PM
- - Testm0nkey   there are a lot of situations to which entrapment ...   Oct 16 2006, 03:48 PM
|- - pysex   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Oct 16 2006, 04:48 PM...   Oct 16 2006, 04:17 PM
- - Divergent Reality   thats why you ask 'so... you a cop?' and ...   Oct 16 2006, 04:20 PM
- - Testm0nkey   yeah most people know this. so this makes me beli...   Oct 16 2006, 04:24 PM
- - Dr. Gonzo   I am split on this show. When I first saw it my re...   Oct 16 2006, 04:31 PM
- - Renegadepeon   I don't think I feel sorry for these guys. DO...   Oct 16 2006, 04:45 PM
|- - Dr. Gonzo   QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Oct 16 2006, 05:45 ...   Oct 16 2006, 05:46 PM
|- - Renegadepeon   QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 16 2006, 06:46 PM)...   Oct 16 2006, 05:51 PM
- - Tygriss   For these guys they catch, the doctors, managers, ...   Oct 16 2006, 04:58 PM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (Tygriss @ Oct 16 2006, 05:58 PM) F...   Oct 17 2006, 10:27 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Jessica @ Oct 17 2006, 11:27 PM) b...   Oct 18 2006, 12:34 AM
|- - jwttu   QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 18 2006, 01:34 AM)...   Oct 18 2006, 07:06 AM
||- - impala454   QUOTE (jwttu @ Oct 18 2006, 08:06 AM) Yes...   Oct 18 2006, 08:35 AM
||- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 18 2006, 08:35 AM)...   Oct 18 2006, 10:15 AM
||- - impala454   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 18 2006, 11:15 AM...   Oct 18 2006, 04:05 PM
||- - lamont's lament   QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 18 2006, 05:05 PM)...   Oct 18 2006, 04:30 PM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 18 2006, 01:34 AM)...   Oct 18 2006, 05:27 PM
|- - lamont's lament   QUOTE (Jessica @ Oct 18 2006, 06:27 PM) s...   Oct 18 2006, 05:56 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Jessica @ Oct 18 2006, 06:27 PM) b...   Oct 19 2006, 09:28 AM
|- - Renegadepeon   QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 19 2006, 10:28 AM)...   Oct 19 2006, 10:07 AM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 19 2006, 10:28 AM)...   Oct 19 2006, 01:14 PM
- - Testm0nkey   I definitely dont agree with sexing of the minors ...   Oct 16 2006, 05:02 PM
- - Dogmeat   I'm all for catching sexual predators, but Dat...   Oct 16 2006, 05:09 PM
- - impala454   To me, this situation would be analagous to a cop ...   Oct 16 2006, 05:16 PM
- - Trespass   QUOTE ENTRAPMENT entrapment, n. 1. A law-enforcem...   Oct 16 2006, 05:18 PM
- - Overlord   RE: Dateline   Oct 16 2006, 05:22 PM
- - Spectatrix   It's not entrapment, it's just a type of s...   Oct 16 2006, 05:24 PM
- - impala454   ok going to a person's house with a gun and go...   Oct 16 2006, 07:09 PM
- - Dr. Gonzo   You counter arguement is moot because he did not c...   Oct 16 2006, 07:16 PM
|- - Renegadepeon   QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 16 2006, 08:16 PM)...   Oct 16 2006, 07:40 PM
|- - lamont's lament   QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 16 2006, 08:16 PM)...   Oct 18 2006, 09:27 AM
- - Trespass   So... let me get this straight: As long as a 13 y...   Oct 16 2006, 07:34 PM
- - Spectatrix   Soliciting a minor for sex is just as much a crime...   Oct 16 2006, 07:50 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 16 2006, 08:50 PM...   Oct 17 2006, 09:27 PM
- - kcroxyoursox   QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 16 2006, 06:54 AM)...   Oct 16 2006, 08:52 PM
- - woody   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Oct 16 2006, 03:48 PM...   Oct 16 2006, 08:55 PM
- - Dr. Gonzo   QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Oct 16 2006, 08:40 ...   Oct 16 2006, 10:25 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 16 2006, 11:25 PM)...   Oct 16 2006, 11:02 PM
|- - Renegadepeon   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Oct 17 2006, 12:02 AM)...   Oct 17 2006, 07:48 AM
- - Spectatrix   I'm pretty sure Zach was just disagreeing with...   Oct 17 2006, 08:28 AM
- - Testm0nkey   So how many arrests have they made so pervs can wa...   Oct 17 2006, 12:00 PM
- - Testm0nkey   This is a change of topic somewhat but has got me ...   Oct 17 2006, 12:11 PM
|- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Oct 17 2006, 12:11 PM...   Oct 17 2006, 12:37 PM
- - Testm0nkey   i thought the boys were in florida   Oct 17 2006, 12:46 PM
- - Spectatrix   Yeah, my mistake, just read some more about it. I...   Oct 17 2006, 12:48 PM
- - jwttu   basically foley wrote the law so he knew all the l...   Oct 17 2006, 04:45 PM
|- - Trespass   In past episodes they have been required to use de...   Oct 17 2006, 10:17 PM
- - Trespass   QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 18 2006, 01:34 AM)...   Oct 18 2006, 01:08 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Trespass @ Oct 18 2006, 02:08 AM) ...   Oct 18 2006, 07:57 AM
- - chook   Nobody on techsans gets the sex0r anyways!   Oct 18 2006, 02:58 AM
- - Testm0nkey   im just disgusted they show this on television as ...   Oct 18 2006, 08:48 AM
|- - cupcake   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Oct 18 2006, 09:48 AM...   Oct 18 2006, 10:39 AM
- - woody   i remember that one   Oct 18 2006, 09:34 AM
- - Trespass   QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 18 2006, 09:35 AM)...   Oct 18 2006, 10:17 AM
- - Testm0nkey   watching pedophiles stalk out someone and walk int...   Oct 18 2006, 11:02 AM
- - Divergent Reality   here get your pedo on.   Oct 18 2006, 11:34 AM
- - woody   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Oct 18 2006, 11:02 AM...   Oct 18 2006, 11:37 AM
- - Spectatrix   Righto, I see where you're coming from. There...   Oct 18 2006, 04:12 PM
- - Trespass   Everyone of these guys needs to be tazered for our...   Oct 18 2006, 04:26 PM
- - Trespass   QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Oct 18 2006, 05...   Oct 18 2006, 05:25 PM
- - Divergent Reality   more coming out of the works. lots of odd beans ...   Oct 18 2006, 09:43 PM
- - Rocky   The real tragedy is that 13 year old pussy is even...   Oct 18 2006, 10:18 PM
- - Final_Cut_Guru   It never ceases to amaze me how the american publi...   Oct 18 2006, 10:18 PM
- - Trespass   QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 19 2006, 10:28 AM)...   Oct 19 2006, 11:42 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Trespass @ Oct 19 2006, 12:42 PM) ...   Oct 19 2006, 09:57 PM
|- - lamont's lament   QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 19 2006, 10:57 PM)...   Oct 20 2006, 07:51 AM
- - Renegadepeon   So let's say your girlfriend or wife has these...   Oct 20 2006, 10:17 AM
- - lamont's lament   one of the pervs they arrested tonight was wearing...   Feb 20 2007, 08:04 PM
|- - TTUAthleticTrainer   QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Feb 20 2007, 08...   Feb 20 2007, 11:26 PM
- - Testm0s Boi Toi   One of the guys killed himself instead of being ca...   Feb 20 2007, 09:05 PM
- - Testm0s Boi Toi   haha mustang owners   Feb 20 2007, 09:14 PM
- - psidancer   QUOTE (TTUAthleticTrainer @ Feb 20 2007, 11...   Feb 21 2007, 02:01 PM


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