Oct 14 2006, 06:19 PM
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Oct 16 2006, 07:47 AM
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![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
but why the hell would china give a crap if NK builds nukes? they're allies the sad truth is, there's not many countries out there that'd shed a tear if we got hit with nukes. China cares because even though they are allies with NK they depend on the U.S. for their economic power. They want to grow and in order to do that they need money, that's where the U.S. comes into the equation. Naturally war is inevitable sin of the human race, but it should be averted at every chance we get. I actually see the possibility of an invasion of North Korea under this administration both unliikely and political suicide for the republican party. Fighting a war like this would be like what johnson did to the democractic presidency, he destroyed it and eventually congress as well when it was finally taken over in '94. Lets face it we are already fighting two wars in Iraq and afghanistan, and the invasion of Iran is inevitable. Why we would invade a nation that has yet to test a nuke and let North Korea off the hook baffles me (even though we should not invade because it would be suicide). Let's face it, we invaded a country under the assumption that it WMDS, when it did not we said a lot of bull shit about dictators, democracy and terrorism but not much else. And yet we will not invade a dictatorship with a known human rights violation past and HAS AND TESTED nukes. The logic of this administration does not exist. I doubt we'll invade Iran. The president has taken a quiet stance lately and though he was the only one to support their nuclear test he hasn't said much more than that. If Iran is put under the same sanctions as NK we could see them buckle or we could see them get extremely pissed off and try to invade Israel. What gets me is that we won't help in a situation (we being the UN and the US) where there will be a small need for troops and a massive saving of lives. We all sit back and ignore Darfur, Somalia, the Congo and the rest of Africa thinking that these problems will just go away. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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pebkac UN sanctions N Korea Oct 14 2006, 06:19 PM
Dogmeat QUOTE (pebkac @ Oct 14 2006, 07:19 PM) ht... Oct 14 2006, 06:20 PM
pebkac QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Oct 14 2006, 07:20 PM) A... Oct 14 2006, 06:22 PM
impala454 QUOTE (pebkac @ Oct 14 2006, 07:22 PM) Eh... Oct 14 2006, 07:38 PM
jonathan83 QUOTE (pebkac @ Oct 14 2006, 06:22 PM) No... Oct 15 2006, 05:09 AM
Hartmann If we want a draft we should invade North Korea be... Oct 14 2006, 09:37 PM
impala454 QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 14 2006, 10:37 PM) ... Oct 15 2006, 10:46 AM
Hartmann QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 15 2006, 11:46 AM)... Oct 15 2006, 12:08 PM
impala454 well yeah that all makes sense, but how does it im... Oct 15 2006, 12:16 PM
Dr. Gonzo Draft would be the only neccasary means to fight t... Oct 15 2006, 01:21 PM
impala454 QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 15 2006, 02:21 PM)... Oct 15 2006, 07:26 PM
chook It depends on how China responds. In the Korean W... Oct 15 2006, 04:43 PM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (chook @ Oct 15 2006, 05:43 PM) It ... Oct 15 2006, 05:56 PM
Hartmann QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 15 2006, 08:26 PM)... Oct 15 2006, 07:38 PM
impala454 the problems in iraq right now are suicide & c... Oct 15 2006, 08:05 PM
Hartmann QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 15 2006, 09:05 PM)... Oct 15 2006, 09:12 PM
impala454 what possible war could we /have we ever fought ... Oct 15 2006, 09:52 PM
Hartmann QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 15 2006, 10:52 PM)... Oct 15 2006, 10:13 PM
impala454 QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 15 2006, 11:13 PM) ... Oct 15 2006, 11:05 PM
Xentither okay, here's my opinion on the matter....
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FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (Xentither @ Oct 15 2006, 11:42 PM)... Oct 16 2006, 02:31 PM
pebkac QUOTE (Xentither @ Oct 15 2006, 11:42 PM)... Oct 16 2006, 02:54 PM
Dr. Gonzo We learned a valuable lesson in vietnam, being a s... Oct 16 2006, 12:25 AM
impala454 well obviously it's complicated, but war isn... Oct 16 2006, 12:41 AM
Dr. Gonzo Naturally war is inevitable sin of the human race,... Oct 16 2006, 12:47 AM
impala454 QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 16 2006, 01:47 AM)... Oct 16 2006, 12:54 AM
Dr. Gonzo How can you say it would be easy to take NK. We ca... Oct 16 2006, 12:57 AM
impala454 QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 16 2006, 01:57 AM)... Oct 16 2006, 01:19 AM
Divergent Reality QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 16 2006, 08:47 AM) ... Oct 17 2006, 09:30 AM
jwttu QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 16 2006, 08:47 AM) ... Oct 17 2006, 04:57 PM
impala454 whoa the triple quote heheh Oct 16 2006, 07:49 AM
Hartmann QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 16 2006, 08:49 AM)... Oct 16 2006, 07:54 AM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE What gets me is that we won't help in a ... Oct 16 2006, 11:25 AM
Xentither exactly. You get it.
North korea needs a missle d... Oct 16 2006, 08:54 PM
chook COCKROCKET!! Oct 17 2006, 12:15 AM
Dr. Gonzo ever notice that missiles look like giant penises.... Oct 17 2006, 12:20 AM
Xentither QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 17 2006, 01:20 AM)... Oct 17 2006, 03:21 AM
cupcake "We can not even take a divided country like ... Oct 17 2006, 09:52 AM
jonathan83 QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 17 2006, 09:52 AM) N... Oct 17 2006, 10:44 AM
pebkac QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Oct 17 2006, 11:44 AM... Oct 17 2006, 11:11 AM
Testm0nkey this morning it was announced n korea plans on tes... Oct 17 2006, 11:55 AM
cupcake the region doesn't extend across the pacific. ... Oct 17 2006, 12:26 PM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 17 2006, 01:26 PM) t... Oct 17 2006, 08:54 PM
Hartmann QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 17 2006, 01:26 PM) w... Oct 17 2006, 09:27 PM
cupcake QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 17 2006, 10:27 PM) ... Oct 18 2006, 08:39 AM
Hartmann QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 18 2006, 09:39 AM) h... Oct 18 2006, 08:46 AM
Testm0nkey i agree with cutting aid to n. korea. at this po... Oct 17 2006, 12:40 PM
Dr. Gonzo Ok, but saying that North Korea would not be tough... Oct 17 2006, 11:18 PM
Trespass QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 18 2006, 12:18 AM)... Oct 17 2006, 11:42 PM
cupcake a ground war in korea would suck worse than anyone... Oct 18 2006, 08:56 AM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 18 2006, 09:56 AM) a... Oct 22 2006, 03:40 PM
jonathan83 QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 22 2006, 03:40 PM)... Oct 23 2006, 09:35 AM
Divergent Reality QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Oct 23 2006, 10:35 AM... Oct 23 2006, 10:14 AM
chook QUOTE (Divergent Reality @ Oct 23 2006, 11... Oct 23 2006, 10:33 AM
Hartmann Part of the weather/clothing problem was the fact ... Oct 18 2006, 09:03 AM
impala454 i dunno, i don't think china would side with t... Oct 23 2006, 10:35 AM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 23 2006, 11:35 AM)... Oct 23 2006, 01:29 PM
jonathan83 QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 23 2006, 10:35 AM)... Oct 24 2006, 04:59 AM
cupcake QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Oct 24 2006, 05:59 AM... Oct 24 2006, 08:36 AM
jonathan83 QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 24 2006, 08:36 AM) u... Oct 25 2006, 04:16 AM
cupcake QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Oct 25 2006, 05:16 AM... Oct 25 2006, 09:03 AM
jonathan83 QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 25 2006, 09:03 AM) h... Oct 26 2006, 10:13 AM
Testm0nkey did you ever take a look at jon's or that mili... Oct 23 2006, 11:05 AM
cupcake if china really wanted to throwdown with the US, t... Oct 23 2006, 02:59 PM
pebkac Yes, but considering that China has veto power in ... Oct 23 2006, 03:13 PM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (pebkac @ Oct 23 2006, 04:13 PM) Ye... Oct 23 2006, 05:49 PM
Hartmann QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 23 2006, 06:49 PM)... Oct 23 2006, 09:21 PM
Dr. Gonzo Seriously guys, I think this could be world war 3.... Oct 24 2006, 01:26 PM
cupcake QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 24 2006, 02:26 PM)... Oct 24 2006, 01:54 PM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 24 2006, 02:54 PM) o... Oct 24 2006, 05:08 PM
impala454 eh I wouldn't worry about russia much as far a... Oct 24 2006, 01:34 PM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 24 2006, 02:34 PM)... Oct 24 2006, 01:36 PM
impala454 QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 24 2006, 02:36 PM)... Oct 24 2006, 02:08 PM
lamont's lament QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 24 2006, 03:08 PM)... Oct 24 2006, 04:11 PM
impala454 QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Oct 24 2006, 05... Oct 25 2006, 07:53 AM
Hartmann http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6082910.stm
Put... Oct 25 2006, 07:56 AM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 25 2006, 08:56 AM) ... Oct 25 2006, 02:28 PM
cupcake I fail to see what a metal detector at an airport ... Oct 27 2006, 09:16 AM
Spectatrix He was using that as an example of (slightly) high... Oct 27 2006, 10:22 AM
cupcake yeah I get that. and I think that is a weak analog... Oct 27 2006, 10:26 AM
pebkac QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 27 2006, 11:26 AM) y... Oct 27 2006, 11:23 AM
Spectatrix true Oct 27 2006, 10:36 AM
cupcake but don't get me wrong...I don't think chi... Oct 27 2006, 10:42 AM
jonathan83 i mentioned it because you mentioned backpacking w... Oct 28 2006, 04:12 AM![]() ![]() |
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