Oct 14 2006, 06:19 PM
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![]() From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
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Oct 16 2006, 12:25 AM
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![]() Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
We learned a valuable lesson in vietnam, being a superpower with big guns and talk does not win a war. Modern Americans will not stand for heavy casualties like we saw in vietnam. The people dying in iraq, as bad as it is to say, are a simple statistic compared to the loss of human life in vietnam or even world war 2. Even with our smart bombs and technology we can not defeat a roving band of fighters in the jungle. Have we forgoten so quickly how we defeated the british in the revolution? We fought them the same way, picking off their soldiers. And like vietnam, it will not matter if we take a capital city. The same thing happened in Iraq in 2003, we may have conquered baghdad and all the major cities, but the enemy continues to harass us with "terrorist" tactics. The fact remains that a war in North Korea, like Iraq and vietnam before it, can not be won in any traditional sense. I would agree with you Impala if we had devised a way to fight these tactics, but the war in Iraq prooves that we have not done any such thing. You would think that the most sophisticated nation in the world would have cleaned up it's skeletons, unfortunatly this is not the case. The only possible way to win in North Korea is to nuke the fuck out of it, destroying the entire state. This of course is not possible, because of the international implications. A nuclear world war would not be good for anyone. And destroying the northern country would only anger south koreans who have family in the north and desperatly want to reunite at some time. This is a complicated matter, and ALL matters into solving it must be carefully and cautiously examined before we commit our manpower to this desperate war.
-------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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pebkac UN sanctions N Korea Oct 14 2006, 06:19 PM
Dogmeat QUOTE (pebkac @ Oct 14 2006, 07:19 PM) ht... Oct 14 2006, 06:20 PM
pebkac QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Oct 14 2006, 07:20 PM) A... Oct 14 2006, 06:22 PM
impala454 QUOTE (pebkac @ Oct 14 2006, 07:22 PM) Eh... Oct 14 2006, 07:38 PM
jonathan83 QUOTE (pebkac @ Oct 14 2006, 06:22 PM) No... Oct 15 2006, 05:09 AM
Hartmann If we want a draft we should invade North Korea be... Oct 14 2006, 09:37 PM
impala454 QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 14 2006, 10:37 PM) ... Oct 15 2006, 10:46 AM
Hartmann QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 15 2006, 11:46 AM)... Oct 15 2006, 12:08 PM
impala454 well yeah that all makes sense, but how does it im... Oct 15 2006, 12:16 PM
Dr. Gonzo Draft would be the only neccasary means to fight t... Oct 15 2006, 01:21 PM
impala454 QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 15 2006, 02:21 PM)... Oct 15 2006, 07:26 PM
chook It depends on how China responds. In the Korean W... Oct 15 2006, 04:43 PM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (chook @ Oct 15 2006, 05:43 PM) It ... Oct 15 2006, 05:56 PM
Hartmann QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 15 2006, 08:26 PM)... Oct 15 2006, 07:38 PM
impala454 the problems in iraq right now are suicide & c... Oct 15 2006, 08:05 PM
Hartmann QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 15 2006, 09:05 PM)... Oct 15 2006, 09:12 PM
impala454 what possible war could we /have we ever fought ... Oct 15 2006, 09:52 PM
Hartmann QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 15 2006, 10:52 PM)... Oct 15 2006, 10:13 PM
impala454 QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 15 2006, 11:13 PM) ... Oct 15 2006, 11:05 PM
Xentither okay, here's my opinion on the matter....
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FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (Xentither @ Oct 15 2006, 11:42 PM)... Oct 16 2006, 02:31 PM
pebkac QUOTE (Xentither @ Oct 15 2006, 11:42 PM)... Oct 16 2006, 02:54 PM
impala454 well obviously it's complicated, but war isn... Oct 16 2006, 12:41 AM
Dr. Gonzo Naturally war is inevitable sin of the human race,... Oct 16 2006, 12:47 AM
impala454 QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 16 2006, 01:47 AM)... Oct 16 2006, 12:54 AM
Dr. Gonzo How can you say it would be easy to take NK. We ca... Oct 16 2006, 12:57 AM
impala454 QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 16 2006, 01:57 AM)... Oct 16 2006, 01:19 AM
Hartmann QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 16 2006, 12:05 AM)... Oct 16 2006, 07:47 AM
Divergent Reality QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 16 2006, 08:47 AM) ... Oct 17 2006, 09:30 AM
jwttu QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 16 2006, 08:47 AM) ... Oct 17 2006, 04:57 PM
impala454 whoa the triple quote heheh Oct 16 2006, 07:49 AM
Hartmann QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 16 2006, 08:49 AM)... Oct 16 2006, 07:54 AM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE What gets me is that we won't help in a ... Oct 16 2006, 11:25 AM
Xentither exactly. You get it.
North korea needs a missle d... Oct 16 2006, 08:54 PM
chook COCKROCKET!! Oct 17 2006, 12:15 AM
Dr. Gonzo ever notice that missiles look like giant penises.... Oct 17 2006, 12:20 AM
Xentither QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 17 2006, 01:20 AM)... Oct 17 2006, 03:21 AM
cupcake "We can not even take a divided country like ... Oct 17 2006, 09:52 AM
jonathan83 QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 17 2006, 09:52 AM) N... Oct 17 2006, 10:44 AM
pebkac QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Oct 17 2006, 11:44 AM... Oct 17 2006, 11:11 AM
Testm0nkey this morning it was announced n korea plans on tes... Oct 17 2006, 11:55 AM
cupcake the region doesn't extend across the pacific. ... Oct 17 2006, 12:26 PM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 17 2006, 01:26 PM) t... Oct 17 2006, 08:54 PM
Hartmann QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 17 2006, 01:26 PM) w... Oct 17 2006, 09:27 PM
cupcake QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 17 2006, 10:27 PM) ... Oct 18 2006, 08:39 AM
Hartmann QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 18 2006, 09:39 AM) h... Oct 18 2006, 08:46 AM
Testm0nkey i agree with cutting aid to n. korea. at this po... Oct 17 2006, 12:40 PM
Dr. Gonzo Ok, but saying that North Korea would not be tough... Oct 17 2006, 11:18 PM
Trespass QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 18 2006, 12:18 AM)... Oct 17 2006, 11:42 PM
cupcake a ground war in korea would suck worse than anyone... Oct 18 2006, 08:56 AM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 18 2006, 09:56 AM) a... Oct 22 2006, 03:40 PM
jonathan83 QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 22 2006, 03:40 PM)... Oct 23 2006, 09:35 AM
Divergent Reality QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Oct 23 2006, 10:35 AM... Oct 23 2006, 10:14 AM
chook QUOTE (Divergent Reality @ Oct 23 2006, 11... Oct 23 2006, 10:33 AM
Hartmann Part of the weather/clothing problem was the fact ... Oct 18 2006, 09:03 AM
impala454 i dunno, i don't think china would side with t... Oct 23 2006, 10:35 AM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 23 2006, 11:35 AM)... Oct 23 2006, 01:29 PM
jonathan83 QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 23 2006, 10:35 AM)... Oct 24 2006, 04:59 AM
cupcake QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Oct 24 2006, 05:59 AM... Oct 24 2006, 08:36 AM
jonathan83 QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 24 2006, 08:36 AM) u... Oct 25 2006, 04:16 AM
cupcake QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Oct 25 2006, 05:16 AM... Oct 25 2006, 09:03 AM
jonathan83 QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 25 2006, 09:03 AM) h... Oct 26 2006, 10:13 AM
Testm0nkey did you ever take a look at jon's or that mili... Oct 23 2006, 11:05 AM
cupcake if china really wanted to throwdown with the US, t... Oct 23 2006, 02:59 PM
pebkac Yes, but considering that China has veto power in ... Oct 23 2006, 03:13 PM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (pebkac @ Oct 23 2006, 04:13 PM) Ye... Oct 23 2006, 05:49 PM
Hartmann QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 23 2006, 06:49 PM)... Oct 23 2006, 09:21 PM
Dr. Gonzo Seriously guys, I think this could be world war 3.... Oct 24 2006, 01:26 PM
cupcake QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 24 2006, 02:26 PM)... Oct 24 2006, 01:54 PM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 24 2006, 02:54 PM) o... Oct 24 2006, 05:08 PM
impala454 eh I wouldn't worry about russia much as far a... Oct 24 2006, 01:34 PM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 24 2006, 02:34 PM)... Oct 24 2006, 01:36 PM
impala454 QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 24 2006, 02:36 PM)... Oct 24 2006, 02:08 PM
lamont's lament QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 24 2006, 03:08 PM)... Oct 24 2006, 04:11 PM
impala454 QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Oct 24 2006, 05... Oct 25 2006, 07:53 AM
Hartmann http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6082910.stm
Put... Oct 25 2006, 07:56 AM
Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 25 2006, 08:56 AM) ... Oct 25 2006, 02:28 PM
cupcake I fail to see what a metal detector at an airport ... Oct 27 2006, 09:16 AM
Spectatrix He was using that as an example of (slightly) high... Oct 27 2006, 10:22 AM
cupcake yeah I get that. and I think that is a weak analog... Oct 27 2006, 10:26 AM
pebkac QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 27 2006, 11:26 AM) y... Oct 27 2006, 11:23 AM
Spectatrix true Oct 27 2006, 10:36 AM
cupcake but don't get me wrong...I don't think chi... Oct 27 2006, 10:42 AM
jonathan83 i mentioned it because you mentioned backpacking w... Oct 28 2006, 04:12 AM![]() ![]() |
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