Sep 27 2006, 01:58 PM
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Personally, I am all for this. Let's let the sectarian violence escalate, pull our boys out, let the Iraqis duke it out, and whoever comes out on top, they proved themselves and we just leave it alone.
A civil war does not directly affect this country. It effects the countries in the Middle East and should give them a swift kick in the rear to take part in their surroundings and help. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Sep 28 2006, 08:34 AM
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QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 28 2006, 07:51 AM) Please drop the oil argument. It's nice that your use of buzzwords actually coincided and made a coherent sentence (barely) but oil is not the issue. First, we already aren't the only superpower in the world. Japan, the UK, Germany, and France all have tremendous pull in this world and as such they can be considered super powers. Let's take the war for what it is, something that came out of false information and the passing of false information off on American citizens. Our boys are not fighting for a nickel on a gallon of gas. Kim of North Korea has done the exact same thing Saddam has done. He oppresses his people. He refuses weapons inspectors. Even claims to be building nuclear weapons. But what does North Korea not have that much of the middle east does have? Iraq just so happens to be in the center of the middle east. A nice tactical control point. To claim the invasion of Iraq was not motivated at all by oil is pure ignorance. However, do I disagree with the US on this? Not at all. Because I would rather be in the country that will be one of the very few that doesn't suffer from energy needs in the future than in india, china, or europe. Was this selfish policy? Unfortunately, in a world of limited resouces, selfish policy has to be made. And we don't elect people to look out for the world. We elect them to look out for this country. -------------------- ![]() |
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Hartmann Civil War In Iraq Sep 27 2006, 01:58 PM
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Psykopath QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 27 2006, 02:58 PM)Perso... Sep 27 2006, 02:09 PM
Hartmann I don't remember ever telling the Iraqi's ... Sep 27 2006, 02:27 PM
Psykopath Isn't that a bit fucked up to let such a count... Sep 27 2006, 02:30 PM
Hartmann QUOTE (Psykopath @ Sep 27 2006, 02:30 PM)Isn... Sep 27 2006, 02:40 PM
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Hartmann It's what we get for living in the ADD nation.... Sep 27 2006, 02:55 PM
Spivey I actually agree with you. The only way to achieve... Sep 27 2006, 02:56 PM
Dogmeat QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 27 2006, 02:58 PM)Perso... Sep 27 2006, 02:59 PM
Hartmann I don't think we have to look any further than... Sep 27 2006, 03:00 PM
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if we do that,... Sep 27 2006, 04:05 PM
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pebkac QUOTE (Jessica @ Sep 28 2006, 06:49 PM)to say... Sep 28 2006, 05:54 PM
Testm0nkey oil runs the whole world. we are totally tied and... Sep 28 2006, 05:54 PM
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