Jul 26 2006, 07:01 PM
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![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2006/07/26/3...oks-living-wage
Will be a good case study on whether or not the minimum wage should be raised. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Jul 29 2006, 12:06 PM
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![]() New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jul 28 2006, 09:31 AM) Poverty for an individual is defined as $9,800/yr. Yeah, that sucks, but it's still possible to live on those wages. You wouldn't be able to afford a car unless you were just doing liability insurance on it, but it's not impossible. You get an efficiency apartment, buy cheap groceries, don't go out to eat, and watch your utility usage. let me lay out some math here that i think is reasonable. minimum wage equals out to $10,712 a year without any deductings or ss being taken out lets say rent is $250/mo for an efficiency....thats $3k/yr water is $20/mo so $240/yr electricity at $80/mo is $960 which is a light estimate because i hardly ever use AC and mine is $106/mo to eat healthy, my estimate is $30/wk for food so thats $1440/yr laundry for 2 loads a week would be $192/yr clothes we will say $60 every 2 months... $360/yr transportation... i dont know what a bus pass costs these days, but we will just say $200/yr extra odds and ends like cleaning supplies and shampoo etc we will alot $200/yr for total so far $6592 now, my guess the actual take home on minimum wage is closer to about $9,00. So here is what we have left over $2408. Health insurance is a must these days. Most minimum wage jobs offer more expensive health care so they are looking at about $60/2 wks of deductions. Thats $1440/yr. What about co-payments and prescriptions. If they go to the doctors 4/yr and the co-pay is $25 and they need a $20 prescription each time thats an additional $180/yr. Now, we have $788 left over which seems like a lot, but is not for an entire year of work. If a person were to get cable, almost half of that would be gone. in other words, yeah, its livable but only for the absolute bare minimum...they wont be able to buy birthday or christmas gifts, get internet, have a car, pay tithe if they go to church, give to charities, or buy something like a vacuum cleaner, much less have a savings because lets face it, that $788 will go to some type of necessity whether it be stamps, a cell phone bill, or something else. Ummm what kind of life is that? Has anyone here ever worked at a fast food restaraunt? it fucking sucks. Its pretty hard work, like always moving and always hustling. I dont know many of people like you and me that could do it because its frustrating work. You smell all the time and get sweaty. So are we saying that just because you dont have to have any prior skills it shouldnt pay much. I can think of several jobs that any joe could do that pay a lot better. But no, people like impala say that only potheads and junkies work those places. No, people who desperately need a job work there too. |
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Hartmann Living Wage OK'd in Chicago Jul 26 2006, 07:01 PM
Psykopath WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE!
J/K
Yeah, this... Jul 26 2006, 07:08 PM
chook it said their average pay is 11 an hour, probably ... Jul 26 2006, 07:46 PM
Jessica QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jul 26 2006, 08:08 PM)WORK... Jul 26 2006, 08:09 PM
prefix Man fuck wal-mart. Anytime something happens that ... Jul 26 2006, 08:10 PM
Jessica it wont only be walmart that is going to bitch abo... Jul 26 2006, 08:12 PM
Renegadepeon QUOTE (prefix @ Jul 26 2006, 08:10 PM)Man fuc... Jul 26 2006, 09:05 PM
dauss QUOTE (Jessica @ Jul 26 2006, 08:12 PM)it won... Jul 26 2006, 10:19 PM
chook As for the car companies, I think they all pay bet... Jul 26 2006, 10:29 PM
dauss Plus the poor fucked themselves.
Maybe they drop... Jul 26 2006, 10:43 PM
woody dunno if i like the idea
QUOTE It would only appl... Jul 26 2006, 11:56 PM
M1N10N QUOTE (dauss @ Jul 26 2006, 10:19 PM)If I rem... Jul 27 2006, 07:11 AM
impala454 QUOTE (dauss @ Jul 26 2006, 11:43 PM)Plus the... Jul 27 2006, 07:38 AM
Spectatrix Well they got some of their facts wrong. Albuquer... Jul 27 2006, 10:43 AM
Jessica QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 27 2006, 08:38 AM)bing... Jul 27 2006, 05:25 PM
chook State Tax is a land tax in our state. Most rich p... Jul 27 2006, 05:57 PM
Spectatrix QUOTE (Jessica @ Jul 27 2006, 05:25 PM)you tw... Jul 27 2006, 07:55 PM
prefix QUOTE And these are the people having the most kid... Jul 27 2006, 10:10 PM
Jessica QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jul 27 2006, 08:55 PM)Tha... Jul 27 2006, 11:36 PM
woody also if you live below the poverty line you usuall... Jul 27 2006, 11:59 PM
M1N10N QUOTE (prefix @ Jul 27 2006, 10:10 PM)Yes, le... Jul 28 2006, 06:47 AM
impala454 QUOTE (prefix @ Jul 27 2006, 11:10 PM)Yet ano... Jul 28 2006, 07:29 AM
impala454 QUOTE (prefix @ Jul 27 2006, 11:10 PM)Yes, le... Jul 28 2006, 07:31 AM
impala454 bottom line here people is with all the welfare, f... Jul 28 2006, 07:43 AM
Spectatrix QUOTE (Jessica @ Jul 27 2006, 11:36 PM)regard... Jul 28 2006, 08:31 AM
woody QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jul 28 2006, 08:31 AM)Any... Jul 28 2006, 08:34 AM
Spectatrix You think it doesn't happen? Fast food compani... Jul 28 2006, 08:36 AM
woody .....it's a quote from Coming to America...Lou... Jul 28 2006, 08:45 AM
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Jessica QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 28 2006, 08:43 AM)bott... Jul 28 2006, 04:49 PM
lamont's lament QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 28 2006, 08:43 AM)In f... Jul 28 2006, 08:47 PM
Testm0nkey QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 28 2006, 07:43 AM)bott... Jul 29 2006, 02:11 AM
Spectatrix Would you mind elaborating, Cathryn? Jul 29 2006, 08:02 AM
Jessica QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Jul 28 2006, 09:... Jul 29 2006, 08:43 AM
woody QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Jul 28 2006, 08:... Jul 29 2006, 09:21 AM
Jessica QUOTE (woody @ Jul 29 2006, 10:21 AM)< Phi... Jul 29 2006, 09:32 AM
moebary QUOTE (Jessica @ Jul 29 2006, 12:06 PM)clothe... Jul 29 2006, 12:23 PM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (Jessica @ Jul 29 2006, 12:06 PM)in oth... Jul 29 2006, 01:28 PM
moebary QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Jul 29 2006, 01:28 PM)l... Jul 29 2006, 02:39 PM
Jessica QUOTE (moebary @ Jul 29 2006, 01:23 PM)it... Jul 30 2006, 02:07 PM
Jim QUOTE (Jessica @ Jul 30 2006, 01:07 PM)i dont... Jul 30 2006, 03:15 PM
Spectatrix QUOTE (Jessica @ Jul 30 2006, 02:07 PM)i dont... Jul 30 2006, 03:29 PM
Jessica QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jul 30 2006, 04:29 PM)I d... Jul 30 2006, 05:37 PM
Dogmeat christ my electric bill in lubbock is usually ... Jul 30 2006, 07:18 PM
Jessica QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jul 30 2006, 08:18 PM)christ... Jul 30 2006, 08:05 PM
lamont's lament QUOTE (Jessica @ Jul 30 2006, 09:05 PM)the wa... Jul 30 2006, 08:43 PM
pysex our thermostat is set at 78 and our electric bill ... Jul 30 2006, 09:31 PM
Spectatrix QUOTE (Jessica @ Jul 30 2006, 08:05 PM)i have... Jul 30 2006, 09:40 PM
Jim QUOTE (Jessica @ Jul 30 2006, 04:37 PM)I have... Jul 30 2006, 09:40 PM
Jessica QUOTE (Jim @ Jul 30 2006, 10:40 PM)So, you... Jul 30 2006, 09:52 PM
Jim You don't have to buy a newspaper to read it. ... Jul 30 2006, 10:02 PM
Jessica QUOTE (Jim @ Jul 30 2006, 11:02 PM)You don... Jul 30 2006, 10:11 PM
Spectatrix You're right in that regard, Jessica. The min... Jul 30 2006, 11:37 PM
pebkac QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jul 31 2006, 12:37 AM)You... Jul 30 2006, 11:44 PM
woody QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jul 30 2006, 03:29 PM)I d... Jul 31 2006, 12:00 AM
woody QUOTE (Jim @ Jul 30 2006, 10:02 PM)You don... Jul 31 2006, 12:05 AM
Jim QUOTE (woody @ Jul 30 2006, 11:05 PM)she spen... Jul 31 2006, 01:07 AM
FORSAKENR320 it doesn't seem like too many people on here k... Jul 31 2006, 06:28 AM
woody QUOTE (Jim @ Jul 31 2006, 01:07 AM)I don... Jul 31 2006, 06:40 AM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (woody @ Jul 31 2006, 06:40 AM)anything... Jul 31 2006, 06:47 AM
Jessica QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Jul 31 2006, 07:28 AM)i... Jul 31 2006, 07:00 AM
impala454 I give about as much sympathy to poor people cryin... Jul 31 2006, 07:52 AM
Spectatrix QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 31 2006, 07:52 AM)Some... Jul 31 2006, 10:20 AM
chook QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jul 31 2006, 10:20 AM)Yea... Jul 31 2006, 12:26 PM
Renegadepeon QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 31 2006, 07:52 AM)Some... Jul 31 2006, 02:24 PM
pebkac QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Jul 31 2006, 03:24 PM)I... Jul 31 2006, 02:47 PM
impala454 QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Jul 31 2006, 03:24 PM)M... Jul 31 2006, 02:47 PM
Dogmeat QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Jul 31 2006, 03:24 PM)M... Jul 31 2006, 02:57 PM
Spectatrix QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Jul 31 2006, 02:24 PM)M... Jul 31 2006, 03:48 PM
Renegadepeon QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jul 31 2006, 03:48 PM)Wel... Jul 31 2006, 04:34 PM
Jessica QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 31 2006, 03:47 PM)Beli... Jul 31 2006, 04:54 PM
Jessica QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Jul 31 2006, 05:34 PM)S... Jul 31 2006, 05:11 PM
Dogmeat Jessica I think you have it backwards ... I really... Jul 31 2006, 05:17 PM
Jessica QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jul 31 2006, 06:17 PM)Jessic... Jul 31 2006, 05:21 PM
Dogmeat QUOTE (Jessica @ Jul 31 2006, 06:21 PM)mental... Jul 31 2006, 05:22 PM
Spectatrix I agree that CEO's often get paid much more th... Jul 31 2006, 05:23 PM
Jessica QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jul 31 2006, 06:23 PM)I a... Jul 31 2006, 05:49 PM
Jim QUOTE (Jessica @ Jul 31 2006, 04:49 PM)I work... Jul 31 2006, 07:06 PM
Renegadepeon QUOTE (Jim @ Jul 31 2006, 07:06 PM)Ok, let... Jul 31 2006, 07:28 PM
Jim QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Jul 31 2006, 06:28 PM)J... Jul 31 2006, 07:41 PM
moebary QUOTE (Jim @ Jul 31 2006, 07:41 PM)now I... Jul 31 2006, 07:51 PM
Dogmeat QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Jul 31 2006, 08:28 PM)J... Jul 31 2006, 07:58 PM
Jim QUOTE (moebary @ Jul 31 2006, 06:51 PM)I find... Jul 31 2006, 08:06 PM
Jessica QUOTE (Jim @ Jul 31 2006, 08:06 PM)Ok, let... Jul 31 2006, 08:11 PM
Jessica QUOTE (moebary @ Jul 31 2006, 08:51 PM)I find... Jul 31 2006, 08:12 PM
Jim Jessica, the opportunuties are there, you fail to ... Jul 31 2006, 08:23 PM
lamont's lament QUOTE (Jessica @ Jul 31 2006, 06:21 PM)are we... Jul 31 2006, 08:51 PM
Jessica QUOTE (Jim @ Jul 31 2006, 09:23 PM)Jessica, t... Jul 31 2006, 08:56 PM
Jessica QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Jul 31 2006, 09:... Jul 31 2006, 08:57 PM
Spectatrix QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Jul 31 2006, 07:28 PM)A... Jul 31 2006, 09:03 PM
Spectatrix I probably should just leave this thread, but I... Jul 31 2006, 09:54 PM
Jessica the federal minimum is $5.15; however states ... Jul 31 2006, 10:05 PM
nickluto you know what would make this thread more interest... Jul 31 2006, 10:22 PM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Jul 31 2006, 02:24 PM)M... Jul 31 2006, 10:30 PM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Jul 31 2006, 04:34 PM)S... Jul 31 2006, 10:34 PM
Jessica i also based my $60 thing on if it was like w... Jul 31 2006, 10:37 PM
Dogmeat I buy $5 t shirts at k-mart and I am perfectl... Jul 31 2006, 10:52 PM
Jessica QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jul 31 2006, 11:52 PM)I buy ... Jul 31 2006, 10:58 PM
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