The problems with the military tribunal thing... Options

[Hartmann]

Alright, my issue with the Supreme Court saying that we have to follow the Geneva Convention is that the Convention documents have not really been updated to deal with modern warfare. It mentions torture, but doesn't say what torture is. Is solitary confinement torture? I wouldn't think so, but some do.

There was an article about a Canadian teen who was captured in Afghanistan after killing an Army Medic (as in, they saw him do it). The teen was told threats of being sent to a foreign country for torture, sleep deprived, and put in solitary confinement. To me, none of those sound that bad. Granted they did make him wipe up his own urine which wasn't right, but the other stuff sounds like simple interrogation practices.

I just don't see where we draw the line. Pretty soon we're going to be giving these guys cable tv with link ups to Al-Jazeera and computers.

[Hartmann]

What is cruel and unusual punishment? What is neccessary and proper? What is freedom of speech?

The law deals with all kinds of ambiguities. If we were to do away with every law that's ambiguous, our country would be sheer anarchy.

And who cares what flag they fight under? They're still human beings that deserve basic rights.

However you look at it, the thread asked for an opinion and I gave it. Agree or disagree with me all you like.

Basic human rights? Isn't our definition different than say Saudi Arabia? So could we go by their definition and chop hands off?

The flag they fly under makes a world of difference, it means you are covered by the Geneva Convention. They fly no flag, which means they should not be held under the convention.