Jul 3 2006, 11:52 PM
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A federal judge in California has ordered the US Navy to temporarily stop using sonar equipment because it might harm whales and other sea mammals.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5143698.stm I've seen many clashes between business and environmental interests, but I've never heard of environmentalists clashing with the military and actually winning. Is this a good thing? |
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Jul 4 2006, 03:26 PM
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its been past precident that the courts have always stayed out of military decisions because they aren't qualified in the matters revolving around how the military works. There have been past happenings where a ship was allegedly blown up in a negligent way that killed sailors, but the courts would not rule on it because they knew they weren't going to get into the business of deciding how they think the military should and should not be run, because its out of thier job description.
I think this is something that will be over-ruled in the appeals courts because it is a judge over-stepping a usual past precident of judges not controling how the military OPERATES. But i could be wrong... in any case i think its bad.. active sonar has a the ability of protecting us wear passive can't, because it actually looks instead of just listening .... or so i've heard |
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celebritygooner US Naval Exercise Jul 3 2006, 11:52 PM
Overlord The Navy uses different types of sonars (active/L... Jul 3 2006, 11:57 PM
celebritygooner I'm very nervous about civilians who aren... Jul 4 2006, 12:07 AM
Overlord It's not right for the U.S. Department of Defe... Jul 4 2006, 12:16 AM
chook QUOTE (neoshaman @ Jul 4 2006, 12:16 AM)It... Jul 4 2006, 01:28 AM
pebkac QUOTE (celebritygooner @ Jul 4 2006, 01:07 AM... Jul 4 2006, 09:15 AM
pysex so they don't know if the sonar actually harms... Jul 4 2006, 09:41 AM
pebkac QUOTE (pysex @ Jul 4 2006, 10:41 AM)so they d... Jul 4 2006, 09:46 AM
celebritygooner QUOTE (pebkac @ Jul 4 2006, 09:46 AM)a tempor... Jul 4 2006, 10:10 AM
Overlord QUOTE (pysex @ Jul 4 2006, 09:41 AM)so they d... Jul 4 2006, 10:24 AM
pebkac QUOTE (celebritygooner @ Jul 4 2006, 11:10 AM... Jul 4 2006, 10:58 AM
Hartmann So if they're out in international waters they... Jul 4 2006, 11:01 AM
pebkac QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jul 4 2006, 12:01 PM)So if ... Jul 4 2006, 11:04 AM
Hartmann QUOTE (pebkac @ Jul 4 2006, 11:04 AM)The spec... Jul 4 2006, 11:08 AM
pebkac QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jul 4 2006, 12:08 PM)But ho... Jul 4 2006, 11:11 AM
Hartmann QUOTE (pebkac @ Jul 4 2006, 11:11 AM)Well, if... Jul 4 2006, 11:12 AM
pebkac QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jul 4 2006, 12:12 PM)Countr... Jul 4 2006, 11:15 AM
Hartmann QUOTE (pebkac @ Jul 4 2006, 11:15 AM)That... Jul 4 2006, 11:19 AM
Overlord The Navy submarines are like little outposts of Am... Jul 4 2006, 11:22 AM
pebkac QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jul 4 2006, 12:19 PM)I unde... Jul 4 2006, 11:46 AM
Overlord QUOTE (pebkac @ Jul 4 2006, 11:46 AM)And I wo... Jul 4 2006, 11:58 AM
pysex The only animals that are affected by sonar would ... Jul 4 2006, 12:25 PM
Hartmann QUOTE (neoshaman @ Jul 4 2006, 11:58 AM)Plus ... Jul 4 2006, 12:27 PM
pebkac QUOTE (pysex @ Jul 4 2006, 01:25 PM)The only ... Jul 4 2006, 03:52 PM
Psykopath BETTER NOT MAKE HIM MAD Jul 4 2006, 03:56 PM
celebritygooner QUOTE (pebkac @ Jul 4 2006, 11:46 AM)I wouldn... Jul 4 2006, 04:38 PM
Overlord QUOTE If submarines don't threaten dolphins, w... Jul 4 2006, 04:44 PM
celebritygooner The best cans of tuna have little chunks of dolphi... Jul 4 2006, 05:03 PM
Overlord Dude, your reply post to mine didn't even addr... Jul 4 2006, 05:05 PM
pebkac QUOTE (celebritygooner @ Jul 4 2006, 05:38 PM... Jul 4 2006, 05:05 PM
celebritygooner QUOTE (neoshaman @ Jul 4 2006, 05:05 PM)Dude,... Jul 4 2006, 05:14 PM
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Renegadepeon Celebrity....the sky isn't falling. Jul 4 2006, 05:20 PM
celebritygooner QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Jul 4 2006, 05:20 PM)Ce... Jul 4 2006, 05:24 PM
Overlord QUOTE (celebritygooner @ Jul 4 2006, 05:14 PM... Jul 4 2006, 05:26 PM
Overlord QUOTE (celebritygooner @ Jul 4 2006, 05:24 PM... Jul 4 2006, 05:33 PM
celebritygooner QUOTE (neoshaman @ Jul 4 2006, 05:26 PM)How d... Jul 4 2006, 05:39 PM
Overlord I have no problem with the military, but I think t... Jul 4 2006, 05:41 PM
celebritygooner QUOTE (neoshaman @ Jul 4 2006, 05:33 PM)Why a... Jul 4 2006, 05:42 PM
Overlord QUOTE (celebritygooner @ Jul 4 2006, 05:42 PM... Jul 4 2006, 05:44 PM
lamont's lament way to blow his argument way out of proportion, do... Jul 4 2006, 05:46 PM
Psykopath QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Jul 4 2006, 06:4... Jul 4 2006, 05:56 PM
lamont's lament QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jul 4 2006, 06:56 PM)
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Jessica GIGGLEZ Jul 4 2006, 06:04 PM
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Psykopath QUOTE (Jessica @ Jul 4 2006, 07:04 PM)GIGGLEZ Jul 4 2006, 06:06 PM
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lamont's lament QUOTE (Jessica @ Jul 4 2006, 07:19 PM)a wise ... Jul 4 2006, 06:19 PM
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Jessica FAT PEOPLE Jul 4 2006, 06:24 PM
lamont's lament QUOTE (Jessica @ Jul 4 2006, 07:24 PM)FAT PEO... Jul 4 2006, 06:24 PM
Jessica QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Jul 4 2006, 07:2... Jul 4 2006, 06:25 PM
Jyan The whales should mount a counterattack! Jul 4 2006, 09:44 PM
pysex I think I would be in agreement with a judge's... Jul 4 2006, 11:27 PM
celebritygooner nicely put. Jul 5 2006, 03:52 AM
CANNONBALL whoa whoa wait...they're considering canc... Jul 5 2006, 09:19 AM
CANNONBALL also you would think that since this is an annual ... Jul 5 2006, 09:23 AM
Hartmann QUOTE (CANNONBALL @ Jul 5 2006, 09:23 AM)also... Jul 5 2006, 09:30 AM
Overlord If it harms human snorklers you don't think it... Jul 5 2006, 09:41 AM
Hartmann So how far do the whales have to be from the boats... Jul 5 2006, 09:47 AM
Overlord QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jul 5 2006, 09:47 AM)So how... Jul 5 2006, 09:48 AM
CANNONBALL QUOTE She could barely talk, had difficulties in e... Jul 5 2006, 09:50 AM
CANNONBALL QUOTE (neoshaman @ Jul 5 2006, 09:48 AM)If wh... Jul 5 2006, 09:51 AM
Overlord QUOTE (CANNONBALL @ Jul 5 2006, 09:50 AM)I... Jul 5 2006, 09:51 AM
Overlord QUOTE (CANNONBALL @ Jul 5 2006, 09:51 AM)LMFA... Jul 5 2006, 09:51 AM
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Overlord QUOTE (CANNONBALL @ Jul 5 2006, 09:52 AM)I kn... Jul 5 2006, 09:53 AM
Hartmann QUOTE (neoshaman @ Jul 5 2006, 09:48 AM)If wh... Jul 5 2006, 09:55 AM
pysex I still don't like any of this. Humans are des... Jul 5 2006, 10:23 AM
Psykopath since when did four failed missles = a shitton of ... Jul 5 2006, 01:01 PM
pysex i'm saying shitton because frankly i have no i... Jul 5 2006, 03:44 PM
Overlord ghey Jul 5 2006, 03:49 PM
impala454 who gives a shit about whales
the hippies only ca... Jul 5 2006, 04:16 PM
celebritygooner QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jul 5 2006, 01:01 PM)since... Jul 5 2006, 06:14 PM
Psykopath QUOTE (celebritygooner @ Jul 5 2006, 07:14 PM... Jul 5 2006, 11:03 PM
Hartmann Maybe we should pay more attention to the people w... Jul 6 2006, 07:20 AM
CANNONBALL from my buddy...
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I don't real... Jul 6 2006, 08:29 AM
Hartmann QUOTE (CANNONBALL @ Jul 6 2006, 08:29 AM)from... Jul 6 2006, 08:43 AM
CANNONBALL yeah I guess it is...
I'm a rock. Jul 6 2006, 10:19 AM
Hartmann Sounds like the issue has been settled. The Navy c... Jul 7 2006, 10:31 PM![]() ![]() |
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