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celebritygooner
post Jul 3 2006, 11:52 PM
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A federal judge in California has ordered the US Navy to temporarily stop using sonar equipment because it might harm whales and other sea mammals.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5143698.stm

I've seen many clashes between business and environmental interests, but I've never heard of environmentalists clashing with the military and actually winning. Is this a good thing?
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Hartmann
post Jul 4 2006, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE (pebkac @ Jul 4 2006, 11:11 AM)
Well, if the US government has no authority in international waters, what is the Navy doing there?

Countries all over the world have submarines and ships in international waters...


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- celebritygooner   US Naval Exercise   Jul 3 2006, 11:52 PM
- - Overlord   The Navy uses different types of sonars (active/L...   Jul 3 2006, 11:57 PM
- - celebritygooner   I'm very nervous about civilians who aren...   Jul 4 2006, 12:07 AM
- - Overlord   It's not right for the U.S. Department of Defe...   Jul 4 2006, 12:16 AM
- - chook   QUOTE (neoshaman @ Jul 4 2006, 12:16 AM)It...   Jul 4 2006, 01:28 AM
- - pebkac   QUOTE (celebritygooner @ Jul 4 2006, 01:07 AM...   Jul 4 2006, 09:15 AM
- - pysex   so they don't know if the sonar actually harms...   Jul 4 2006, 09:41 AM
- - pebkac   QUOTE (pysex @ Jul 4 2006, 10:41 AM)so they d...   Jul 4 2006, 09:46 AM
- - celebritygooner   QUOTE (pebkac @ Jul 4 2006, 09:46 AM)a tempor...   Jul 4 2006, 10:10 AM
- - Overlord   QUOTE (pysex @ Jul 4 2006, 09:41 AM)so they d...   Jul 4 2006, 10:24 AM
- - pebkac   QUOTE (celebritygooner @ Jul 4 2006, 11:10 AM...   Jul 4 2006, 10:58 AM
- - Hartmann   So if they're out in international waters they...   Jul 4 2006, 11:01 AM
- - pebkac   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jul 4 2006, 12:01 PM)So if ...   Jul 4 2006, 11:04 AM
- - Hartmann   QUOTE (pebkac @ Jul 4 2006, 11:04 AM)The spec...   Jul 4 2006, 11:08 AM
- - pebkac   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jul 4 2006, 12:08 PM)But ho...   Jul 4 2006, 11:11 AM
- - Hartmann   QUOTE (pebkac @ Jul 4 2006, 11:11 AM)Well, if...   Jul 4 2006, 11:12 AM
- - pebkac   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jul 4 2006, 12:12 PM)Countr...   Jul 4 2006, 11:15 AM
- - Hartmann   QUOTE (pebkac @ Jul 4 2006, 11:15 AM)That...   Jul 4 2006, 11:19 AM
- - Overlord   The Navy submarines are like little outposts of Am...   Jul 4 2006, 11:22 AM
- - pebkac   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jul 4 2006, 12:19 PM)I unde...   Jul 4 2006, 11:46 AM
- - Overlord   QUOTE (pebkac @ Jul 4 2006, 11:46 AM)And I wo...   Jul 4 2006, 11:58 AM
- - pysex   The only animals that are affected by sonar would ...   Jul 4 2006, 12:25 PM
- - Hartmann   QUOTE (neoshaman @ Jul 4 2006, 11:58 AM)Plus ...   Jul 4 2006, 12:27 PM
- - GhostofTHECHICKEN   its been past precident that the courts have alway...   Jul 4 2006, 03:26 PM
- - pebkac   QUOTE (pysex @ Jul 4 2006, 01:25 PM)The only ...   Jul 4 2006, 03:52 PM
- - Psykopath   BETTER NOT MAKE HIM MAD   Jul 4 2006, 03:56 PM
- - celebritygooner   QUOTE (pebkac @ Jul 4 2006, 11:46 AM)I wouldn...   Jul 4 2006, 04:38 PM
- - Overlord   QUOTE If submarines don't threaten dolphins, w...   Jul 4 2006, 04:44 PM
- - celebritygooner   The best cans of tuna have little chunks of dolphi...   Jul 4 2006, 05:03 PM
- - Overlord   Dude, your reply post to mine didn't even addr...   Jul 4 2006, 05:05 PM
- - pebkac   QUOTE (celebritygooner @ Jul 4 2006, 05:38 PM...   Jul 4 2006, 05:05 PM
- - celebritygooner   QUOTE (neoshaman @ Jul 4 2006, 05:05 PM)Dude,...   Jul 4 2006, 05:14 PM
- - celebritygooner   QUOTE (pebkac @ Jul 4 2006, 05:05 PM)Please.Ã...   Jul 4 2006, 05:15 PM
- - Renegadepeon   Celebrity....the sky isn't falling.   Jul 4 2006, 05:20 PM
- - celebritygooner   QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Jul 4 2006, 05:20 PM)Ce...   Jul 4 2006, 05:24 PM
- - Overlord   QUOTE (celebritygooner @ Jul 4 2006, 05:14 PM...   Jul 4 2006, 05:26 PM
- - Overlord   QUOTE (celebritygooner @ Jul 4 2006, 05:24 PM...   Jul 4 2006, 05:33 PM
- - celebritygooner   QUOTE (neoshaman @ Jul 4 2006, 05:26 PM)How d...   Jul 4 2006, 05:39 PM
- - Overlord   I have no problem with the military, but I think t...   Jul 4 2006, 05:41 PM
- - celebritygooner   QUOTE (neoshaman @ Jul 4 2006, 05:33 PM)Why a...   Jul 4 2006, 05:42 PM
- - Overlord   QUOTE (celebritygooner @ Jul 4 2006, 05:42 PM...   Jul 4 2006, 05:44 PM
- - lamont's lament   way to blow his argument way out of proportion, do...   Jul 4 2006, 05:46 PM
- - Psykopath   QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Jul 4 2006, 06:4...   Jul 4 2006, 05:56 PM
- - lamont's lament   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jul 4 2006, 06:56 PM) ?...   Jul 4 2006, 05:57 PM
- - Overlord   why would i ban anyone in this thread, i totally o...   Jul 4 2006, 05:59 PM
- - Jessica   GIGGLEZ   Jul 4 2006, 06:04 PM
- - Overlord   QUOTE (Jessica @ Jul 4 2006, 06:04 PM)GIGGLEZ   Jul 4 2006, 06:05 PM
- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Jessica @ Jul 4 2006, 07:04 PM)GIGGLEZ   Jul 4 2006, 06:06 PM
- - celebritygooner   QUOTE (neoshaman @ Jul 4 2006, 05:44 PM)Check...   Jul 4 2006, 06:14 PM
- - Jessica   a wise man once told me "LOLZ ROFFLEZ thanks ...   Jul 4 2006, 06:19 PM
- - lamont's lament   QUOTE (Jessica @ Jul 4 2006, 07:19 PM)a wise ...   Jul 4 2006, 06:19 PM
- - Jessica   QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Jul 4 2006, 07:1...   Jul 4 2006, 06:21 PM
- - lamont's lament   QUOTE (Jessica @ Jul 4 2006, 07:21 PM)is the ...   Jul 4 2006, 06:23 PM
- - Jessica   FAT PEOPLE   Jul 4 2006, 06:24 PM
- - lamont's lament   QUOTE (Jessica @ Jul 4 2006, 07:24 PM)FAT PEO...   Jul 4 2006, 06:24 PM
- - Jessica   QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Jul 4 2006, 07:2...   Jul 4 2006, 06:25 PM
- - Jyan   The whales should mount a counterattack!   Jul 4 2006, 09:44 PM
- - pysex   I think I would be in agreement with a judge's...   Jul 4 2006, 11:27 PM
- - celebritygooner   nicely put.   Jul 5 2006, 03:52 AM
- - CANNONBALL   whoa whoa wait...they're considering canc...   Jul 5 2006, 09:19 AM
- - CANNONBALL   also you would think that since this is an annual ...   Jul 5 2006, 09:23 AM
- - Hartmann   QUOTE (CANNONBALL @ Jul 5 2006, 09:23 AM)also...   Jul 5 2006, 09:30 AM
- - Overlord   If it harms human snorklers you don't think it...   Jul 5 2006, 09:41 AM
- - Hartmann   So how far do the whales have to be from the boats...   Jul 5 2006, 09:47 AM
- - Overlord   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jul 5 2006, 09:47 AM)So how...   Jul 5 2006, 09:48 AM
- - CANNONBALL   QUOTE She could barely talk, had difficulties in e...   Jul 5 2006, 09:50 AM
- - CANNONBALL   QUOTE (neoshaman @ Jul 5 2006, 09:48 AM)If wh...   Jul 5 2006, 09:51 AM
- - Overlord   QUOTE (CANNONBALL @ Jul 5 2006, 09:50 AM)I...   Jul 5 2006, 09:51 AM
- - Overlord   QUOTE (CANNONBALL @ Jul 5 2006, 09:51 AM)LMFA...   Jul 5 2006, 09:51 AM
- - CANNONBALL   QUOTE (neoshaman @ Jul 5 2006, 09:51 AM)She w...   Jul 5 2006, 09:52 AM
- - Overlord   QUOTE (CANNONBALL @ Jul 5 2006, 09:52 AM)I kn...   Jul 5 2006, 09:53 AM
- - Hartmann   QUOTE (neoshaman @ Jul 5 2006, 09:48 AM)If wh...   Jul 5 2006, 09:55 AM
- - pysex   I still don't like any of this. Humans are des...   Jul 5 2006, 10:23 AM
- - Psykopath   since when did four failed missles = a shitton of ...   Jul 5 2006, 01:01 PM
- - pysex   i'm saying shitton because frankly i have no i...   Jul 5 2006, 03:44 PM
- - Overlord   ghey   Jul 5 2006, 03:49 PM
- - impala454   who gives a shit about whales the hippies only ca...   Jul 5 2006, 04:16 PM
- - celebritygooner   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jul 5 2006, 01:01 PM)since...   Jul 5 2006, 06:14 PM
- - Psykopath   QUOTE (celebritygooner @ Jul 5 2006, 07:14 PM...   Jul 5 2006, 11:03 PM
- - Hartmann   Maybe we should pay more attention to the people w...   Jul 6 2006, 07:20 AM
- - CANNONBALL   from my buddy... ________________ I don't real...   Jul 6 2006, 08:29 AM
- - Hartmann   QUOTE (CANNONBALL @ Jul 6 2006, 08:29 AM)from...   Jul 6 2006, 08:43 AM
- - CANNONBALL   yeah I guess it is... I'm a rock.   Jul 6 2006, 10:19 AM
- - Hartmann   Sounds like the issue has been settled. The Navy c...   Jul 7 2006, 10:31 PM


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