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knucklehead
post Jun 27 2006, 11:28 PM
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If you didn't read this on CNN yet, this is a new thread in response to that "Congress getting richer" thread I posted.

I'm not a democrat, but I do admire them for this and didn't expect it at all. I just hope they stick to it. After all the shit republicans have pulled recently, I don't even wanna be republican anymore. Doing things like this is what it's all about, whether they're really just vying for public opinion or not.

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A week after the GOP-led Senate rejected an increase to the minimum wage, Senate Democrats on Tuesday vowed to block pay raises for members of Congress until the minimum wage is increased.

"We're going to do anything it takes to stop the congressional pay raise this year, and we're not going to settle for this year alone," Democratic Leader Harry Reid of Nevada said at a Capitol news conference.



http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/06/27/con...wage/index.html
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pebkac
post Jun 28 2006, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jun 28 2006, 04:24 PM)
By raising the minimum wage you artificially raise inflation. You push the prices of goods up by "increasing" the standard of living. Economists have been screaming this for a long time.

If the places that pay minimum wage to their employees have to increase that amount they will compensate by first lowering benefits to those people, then raising prices. If they provide a good or service that is common or sought after, those people who got an increase in wage will not see an increase in their ability to purchase goods.

So if Wal-Mart increased their minimum wage, the workers would more than likely see their benefits drop and then the fact that they still couldn't buy stuff at the cheap store they work up.

Heh... I dunno if you've ever worked for a place that pays minimum wage, but the benefits are hardly great.

Secondly, the prices the stores charge are regulated by market forces. The wages they pay aren't quite as much.

It's a lot easier to quit shopping at Wal Mart instead of Albertsons if you're not satisfied with the prices. It's nowhere near as easy to quit Wal Mart if the wages aren't beneficial.

On the other hand, look at things this way: if employers pay their employees a living wage, the economy would also save beaucoups of money in welfare. This means lower taxes, so in the long run, the effect on the economy wouldn't be quite as dramatic.


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- knucklehead   Democrats   Jun 27 2006, 11:28 PM
- - M1N10N   I read in a time magazine that the medicaid bill w...   Jun 28 2006, 06:37 AM
- - Hartmann   So you want an increase in minimum wage, which in ...   Jun 28 2006, 07:23 AM
- - Dogmeat   Wow those senate democrats, they are just so total...   Jun 28 2006, 07:55 AM
- - chook   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jun 28 2006, 07:23 AM)So yo...   Jun 28 2006, 10:50 AM
- - impala454   oh i'm sure the democratic pres candidate will...   Jun 28 2006, 11:15 AM
- - knucklehead   QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 28 2006, 07:55 AM)Wow th...   Jun 28 2006, 11:52 AM
- - pebkac   The minimum wage is a joke. Whether or not it inc...   Jun 28 2006, 02:56 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE (pebkac @ Jun 28 2006, 03:56 PM)The min...   Jun 28 2006, 03:03 PM
- - Psykopath   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 28 2006, 04:03 PM)mayb...   Jun 28 2006, 03:12 PM
- - kcroxyoursox   its an infinite loop - i cant go to school if i do...   Jun 28 2006, 03:23 PM
- - Hartmann   QUOTE (pebkac @ Jun 28 2006, 02:56 PM)The min...   Jun 28 2006, 03:24 PM
- - schwab   you watched......oprah?   Jun 28 2006, 03:24 PM
- - kcroxyoursox   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jun 28 2006, 03:12 PM)most...   Jun 28 2006, 03:26 PM
- - kcroxyoursox   QUOTE (schwab @ Jun 28 2006, 03:24 PM)you wat...   Jun 28 2006, 03:28 PM
- - pebkac   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jun 28 2006, 04:24 PM)By ra...   Jun 28 2006, 04:50 PM
- - Spectatrix   How does living wage = less welfare?   Jun 28 2006, 05:09 PM
- - celebritygooner   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jun 28 2006, 03:12 PM)most...   Jun 28 2006, 06:23 PM
- - lamont's lament   QUOTE (kcroxyoursox @ Jun 28 2006, 04:26 PM)s...   Jun 28 2006, 06:24 PM
- - chook   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jun 28 2006, 05:09 PM)How...   Jun 28 2006, 06:25 PM
- - lamont's lament   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 28 2006, 04:03 PM)mayb...   Jun 28 2006, 06:28 PM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (chook @ Jun 28 2006, 06:25 PM)less peo...   Jun 28 2006, 07:04 PM
- - celebritygooner   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jun 28 2006, 07:04 PM)Min...   Jun 28 2006, 07:17 PM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (celebritygooner @ Jun 28 2006, 07:17 P...   Jun 28 2006, 07:36 PM
- - kcroxyoursox   QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Jun 28 2006, 06:...   Jun 28 2006, 07:37 PM
- - lamont's lament   QUOTE (kcroxyoursox @ Jun 28 2006, 08:37 PM)n...   Jun 28 2006, 07:43 PM
- - Dogmeat   I think we need to elect aliens that Xenu knows .....   Jun 28 2006, 07:57 PM
- - Testm0nkey   As compassionate as i am i have to agree with the ...   Jun 28 2006, 08:02 PM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (kcroxyoursox @ Jun 28 2006, 07:37 PM)o...   Jun 28 2006, 08:10 PM
- - Testm0nkey   its different if he has a family. then i think it...   Jun 28 2006, 08:16 PM
- - celebritygooner   QUOTE (kcroxyoursox @ Jun 28 2006, 07:37 PM)i...   Jun 28 2006, 08:19 PM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Jun 28 2006, 08:16 PM)its...   Jun 28 2006, 09:10 PM
- - pebkac   QUOTE (celebritygooner @ Jun 28 2006, 09:19 P...   Jun 29 2006, 12:19 AM
- - kcroxyoursox   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jun 28 2006, 09:10 PM)...   Jun 29 2006, 06:00 AM
- - Hartmann   Let's not forget that people who make minimum ...   Jun 29 2006, 08:43 AM
- - Renegadepeon   Celebrity, stop making arguments based off informa...   Jun 29 2006, 11:08 AM
- - Spectatrix   Wow, Billy. ONE state that had a statistically si...   Jun 29 2006, 11:20 AM
- - Renegadepeon   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jun 29 2006, 11:20 AM)Wow...   Jun 29 2006, 11:23 AM
- - Renegadepeon   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jun 28 2006, 07:23 AM)So yo...   Jun 29 2006, 11:46 AM
- - Spectatrix   Billy, it's not a higher wage that increases u...   Jun 29 2006, 12:01 PM
- - chook   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jun 29 2006, 11:20 AM)Wow...   Jun 29 2006, 01:00 PM
- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Jun 29 2006, 11:46 AM)I...   Jun 29 2006, 01:06 PM
- - celebritygooner   QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Jun 29 2006, 11:08 AM)C...   Jun 29 2006, 02:31 PM
- - Renegadepeon   You like to make a lot of unsupported claims. In ...   Jun 30 2006, 06:08 AM
- - Dogmeat   I think one of the reasons you see congress fight ...   Jun 30 2006, 08:51 AM
- - Hartmann   No, you're right Dogmeat. If they increase min...   Jun 30 2006, 08:54 AM
- - celebritygooner   QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Jun 30 2006, 06:08 AM)Y...   Jun 30 2006, 02:56 PM
- - M1N10N   and that would be because of labor unions or minim...   Jun 30 2006, 06:05 PM
- - celebritygooner   QUOTE (M1N10N @ Jun 30 2006, 06:05 PM)and tha...   Jul 2 2006, 08:46 AM
- - Renegadepeon   I don't know, man. Those guys in the unions, ...   Jul 2 2006, 06:22 PM
- - M1N10N   american was being paid a quarter what a nigger wi...   Jul 2 2006, 11:38 PM


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