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impala454
post Jun 27 2006, 04:36 PM
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I got a new truck last week and it can use this stuff... no stations in Lubbock yet but I see several in Texas. Has anyone used it yet?
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post Jun 28 2006, 09:44 AM
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I totally would like to think that GM's intentions are to ween us off foreign oil, but the timing of this "Live Green Go Yellow" is just odd. GM and Ford started making them flex-fuel because there are massive excess mileage credits to be had. So when GM first started making the Suburbun, even though the actual gas mileage 15mph, on paper with the credits it increased it to 29mpg. Why did they do this, because there would be millions of dollars in fines enacted if they didn't meet Corporate Average Fuel Economy(CAFE) regulations.

With Ford and GM recently posting over a billion dollars in losses they needed something to improve their image and increase car sales when they are losing out to MPG leaders like Toyota. They just neglected to mention on those Live Green Go Yellow commercials on TV is that gas mileage is reduced.

QUOTE (jwttu @ Jun 28 2006, 05:41 AM)
i think all gas is 90/10 now that they phased out mtbe

Actually, in most large cities it should all be 90% gas/10% ethanol and oxygenated to reduce CO emissions for the summer. I think they will switch it back to 100% gas for the winter. I noticed in Lubbock the octane dropped, but didn't notice any stations put up any "Contains Ethanol" stickers at the pump like I saw in Dallas.

QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 28 2006, 09:01 AM)
i haven't seen prices but i thought E85 was cheaper than gas?

I haven't seen prices either but online there is a list of gas stations online. I had called up a couple(on the same day) a few weeks ago just wondering how much it is, and one station was selling it for $1.99 and another for $2.69(this was back when regular was $2.79). Without any sort of real regulation, I guess the price fluctuates on supply and demand. But if you think about it, if there is only one station that sells it for $1.99, and its 20 miles away, and your gas mileage could drop 25%-40%, is it still worth it?


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- impala454   E85 Ethanol   Jun 27 2006, 04:36 PM
- - chook   I used it in my cousin's vehice in detroit, i ...   Jun 27 2006, 04:56 PM
- - moebary   haven't used it or know anybody who has used i...   Jun 27 2006, 04:57 PM
- - Overlord   i use a blend with 90% gas and 10% E85 ethanol i...   Jun 27 2006, 05:11 PM
- - Hartmann   I filled up Saturday with E85, we'll see how i...   Jun 27 2006, 05:15 PM
- - moebary   QUOTE (neoshaman @ Jun 27 2006, 05:11 PM)newe...   Jun 27 2006, 05:29 PM
- - chook   I like the gas prices on that 2.40 for premium. I...   Jun 27 2006, 05:39 PM
- - rabble   I believe my car can run on pure E85 but going abo...   Jun 27 2006, 05:42 PM
- - Dogmeat   E85 ... Yet another political cluster fuck about p...   Jun 27 2006, 06:37 PM
- - Dogmeat   E85 ... Yet another political cluster fuck about p...   Jun 27 2006, 06:54 PM
- - Dogmeat   E85 ... Yet another political cluster fuck about p...   Jun 27 2006, 06:55 PM
- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 27 2006, 06:37 PM)E85 .....   Jun 27 2006, 06:57 PM
- - jwttu   QUOTE (neoshaman @ Jun 27 2006, 05:11 PM)i us...   Jun 28 2006, 05:41 AM
- - Overlord   QUOTE (jwttu @ Jun 28 2006, 05:41 AM)i think ...   Jun 28 2006, 06:42 AM
- - M1N10N   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jun 27 2006, 06:57 PM)As fa...   Jun 28 2006, 06:43 AM
- - Hartmann   QUOTE (M1N10N @ Jun 28 2006, 06:43 AM)from wh...   Jun 28 2006, 07:25 AM
- - impala454   yeah I could care less about the environment, but ...   Jun 28 2006, 08:07 AM
- - impala454   QUOTE (moebary @ Jun 27 2006, 06:29 PM)nope ...   Jun 28 2006, 08:09 AM
- - JStrider   when I was in colorado at spring break I was using...   Jun 28 2006, 08:19 AM
- - Hartmann   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 28 2006, 08:07 AM)yeah...   Jun 28 2006, 08:42 AM
- - impala454   i haven't seen prices but i thought E85 was ch...   Jun 28 2006, 09:01 AM
- - Hartmann   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 28 2006, 09:01 AM)i ha...   Jun 28 2006, 09:21 AM
- - dauss   I totally would like to think that GM's intent...   Jun 28 2006, 09:44 AM
- - impala454   well i'm not sure about pricing or that my mil...   Jun 28 2006, 10:17 AM
- - Dogmeat   This whole fucking thing is a political stunt ... ...   Jun 28 2006, 02:28 PM
- - impala454   well i think the support for ethanol is because it...   Jun 28 2006, 02:32 PM
- - Spectatrix   At least ethanol is more feasible than hydrogen.   Jun 28 2006, 02:47 PM
- - Hartmann   I don't know how many times I have to say it.....   Jun 28 2006, 02:55 PM
- - impala454   heh well maybe i don't read the boards as much...   Jun 28 2006, 03:06 PM
- - Hartmann   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 28 2006, 03:06 PM)heh ...   Jun 28 2006, 03:18 PM
- - chook   I looked a little into the coal to liquids. pleas...   Jun 28 2006, 03:20 PM
- - Hartmann   QUOTE (chook @ Jun 28 2006, 03:20 PM)I looked...   Jun 28 2006, 03:26 PM
- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 28 2006, 03:32 PM)well...   Jun 28 2006, 03:34 PM
- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jun 28 2006, 03:55 PM)I don...   Jun 28 2006, 03:35 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 28 2006, 04:34 PM)How re...   Jun 28 2006, 03:49 PM
- - Overlord   lololx0r p.s. why not just convert the farm equip...   Jun 28 2006, 03:50 PM
- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 28 2006, 03:35 PM)' ...   Jun 28 2006, 03:56 PM
- - chook   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jun 28 2006, 03:56 PM)Just ...   Jun 28 2006, 04:25 PM
- - Hartmann   QUOTE (chook @ Jun 28 2006, 04:25 PM)I read a...   Jun 28 2006, 04:31 PM
- - Overlord   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jun 28 2006, 03:56 PM)Just ...   Jun 28 2006, 04:43 PM
- - Hartmann   QUOTE (neoshaman @ Jun 28 2006, 04:43 PM)i...   Jun 28 2006, 05:18 PM
- - chook   QUOTE (neoshaman @ Jun 28 2006, 04:43 PM)i...   Jun 28 2006, 06:29 PM
- - lamont's lament   global warming is a myth   Jun 28 2006, 06:33 PM
- - chook   QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Jun 28 2006, 06:...   Jun 28 2006, 06:41 PM
- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 28 2006, 04:49 PM)you ...   Jun 28 2006, 07:50 PM
- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (chook @ Jun 28 2006, 07:29 PM)I think ...   Jun 28 2006, 07:54 PM
- - Hartmann   I was talking to a former coworker about this some...   Jun 29 2006, 08:27 AM
- - JStrider   In the oil fields around bakersfield california th...   Jun 29 2006, 08:50 AM
- - impala454   QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 28 2006, 08:50 PM)No, I...   Jun 29 2006, 08:57 AM
- - dauss   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 29 2006, 08:57 AM)farm...   Jun 29 2006, 09:22 AM
- - impala454   QUOTE (dauss @ Jun 29 2006, 10:22 AM)So what ...   Jun 29 2006, 10:02 AM
- - lamont's lament   QUOTE (chook @ Jun 28 2006, 07:41 PM)that is ...   Jun 29 2006, 06:26 PM
- - Hartmann   QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Jun 29 2006, 06:...   Jun 29 2006, 09:56 PM
- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 29 2006, 09:57 AM)farm...   Jun 30 2006, 08:56 AM
- - impala454   i couldn't give two shits about air pollution,...   Jun 30 2006, 09:26 AM
- - prefix   My giant muscle car doesn't like ethanol, I ho...   Jun 30 2006, 02:44 PM
- - impala454   well thats where i still havent seen much data yet...   Jun 30 2006, 04:39 PM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 30 2006, 04:39 PM)well...   Jun 30 2006, 05:32 PM
- - M1N10N   can someone link a reputable site that explains th...   Jun 30 2006, 06:11 PM
- - dauss   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jun 30 2006, 05:32 PM)The...   Jun 30 2006, 07:05 PM
- - dauss   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 30 2006, 04:39 PM)well...   Jun 30 2006, 07:10 PM
- - Timbo   Where the fuck are my goddamn electric, flying car...   Jul 1 2006, 01:10 AM
- - prefix   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jun 30 2006, 05:32 PM)The...   Jul 1 2006, 12:10 PM
- - impala454   so i finally saw a station with E85, over off nort...   Sep 22 2007, 11:12 AM
- - 1up   what'd you get? it better be a chevy   Sep 22 2007, 06:20 PM
- - dauss   There are a few car enthusiats that love the stuff...   Sep 22 2007, 06:46 PM
- - impala454   oh i never realized it had a higher octane, i...   Sep 22 2007, 07:14 PM
- - dauss   Why do you think it's used in gasoline? As an...   Sep 22 2007, 08:52 PM
- - impala454   my truck is designed to use E85   Sep 22 2007, 08:55 PM
- - dauss   Doesn't mean you'll get more power.   Sep 22 2007, 09:09 PM
- - impala454   i'm not looking for more power. 300hp is plen...   Sep 22 2007, 09:19 PM
- - dauss   You'll lose mileage with E85.   Sep 22 2007, 09:37 PM
- - Jessica   My truck can take E85, but I havent filled up with...   Sep 23 2007, 11:33 AM
- - chook   that who killed the electric car movie was on toda...   Sep 23 2007, 02:10 PM
- - rabble   quit hurting Jesus by not using oil assholes   Sep 24 2007, 07:30 AM
- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (rabble @ Sep 24 2007, 08:30 AM) qu...   Sep 24 2007, 02:21 PM


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