May 28 2006, 09:06 PM
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YOU DECIDE!
discuss. This, in case you haven't guessed, was inspired by Lance's "fucking Christians" thread: http://www.techsans.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=1173 -------------------- |
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Jun 1 2006, 09:50 AM
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![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 2,558 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Seoul, South Korea Member No.: 28 |
QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jun 1 2006, 08:27 AM) The idea is that you can talk to the saints (one-way conversation) just as easily as you could talk another living Christian. By asking them to intercede, you're just asking them to pray TO GOD for xyz while you ALSO are praying TO GOD for xyz, just as you might get a group together on Earth to pray for rain during a drought or to pray for someone's recovery in the hospital, or whatever. It's believed that at a minimum the saints can pray just as they or anyone else could do so while on Earth. And who's to say that, being in Heaven, they can't just mosey on up to God and talk to him "face-to-face"? that would be unfair. so you go through the saints and God will listen to you more than others? hmmm. and..are you sure you aren't just defending the argument, just to be on the other side? because i really don't see how you of all people would agree with this. anhow, whenever you are praying to the saints or mary, i seriously doubt you pray to them just like any other person (as in informally "hey mary, just wondering..could you please pray for blah blah"). i was under the impression that you have to hold beads in your hand and repeat all this ritualistic stuff in order for it to work (superstition+++). am i right or wrong? -------------------- ![]() |
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Spectatrix Catholicism May 28 2006, 09:06 PM
lamont's lament IT SUCKS BUT I HAVE NOTHING TO BASE THAT ON OTHER ... May 28 2006, 09:14 PM
Dogmeat I am pretty much against any form of organized rel... May 28 2006, 09:15 PM
Overlord catholicism was invented to control the masses
if... May 28 2006, 09:16 PM
Jim I smell flames May 28 2006, 09:27 PM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (Lancifer @ May 28 2006, 09:16 PM)catho... May 28 2006, 09:29 PM
Spectatrix QUOTE (Lancifer @ May 28 2006, 09:16 PM)catho... May 28 2006, 09:33 PM
Jim QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 28 2006, 08:33 PM)As ... May 28 2006, 09:34 PM
lamont's lament QUOTE (Jim @ May 28 2006, 10:34 PM)But, then ... May 28 2006, 09:35 PM
Jim QUOTE (lamont's lament @ May 28 2006, 08:... May 28 2006, 09:38 PM
lamont's lament QUOTE (Jim @ May 28 2006, 10:38 PM)These are ... May 28 2006, 09:56 PM
Jim QUOTE (lamont's lament @ May 28 2006, 08:... May 28 2006, 09:57 PM
lamont's lament maybe if she was southern baptist. she was probab... May 28 2006, 09:59 PM
chook This thread has been rated NA-7.....banned May 28 2006, 10:40 PM
pebkac I'm not catholic, so I don't really care. May 28 2006, 10:45 PM
Spectatrix QUOTE (chook @ May 28 2006, 10:40 PM)This thr... May 28 2006, 10:52 PM
Erik B. Praying and asking a saint/Mary to intercede (pray... May 29 2006, 12:13 AM
Tygriss well, i don't think it sucks. but it's not... May 29 2006, 01:19 AM
jonathan83 QUOTE (Erik B. @ May 29 2006, 12:13 AM)Prayin... May 29 2006, 03:30 AM
Rocky QUOTE (jonathan83 @ May 29 2006, 04:30 AM)ver... May 29 2006, 04:09 AM
jonathan83 QUOTE (Rocky @ May 29 2006, 04:09 AM)You are ... May 29 2006, 05:09 AM
Rocky Are you really trying to argue feasibility when yo... May 29 2006, 05:15 AM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (Jim @ May 28 2006, 09:57 PM)Wouldn... May 29 2006, 07:09 AM
jonathan83 probably so forsaken. Church of Christ believe in ... May 29 2006, 07:18 AM
jonathan83 QUOTE (Rocky @ May 29 2006, 05:15 AM)Are you ... May 29 2006, 07:21 AM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (jonathan83 @ May 29 2006, 07:21 AM)it... May 29 2006, 07:36 AM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (Tygriss @ May 29 2006, 01:19 AM)just a... May 29 2006, 07:37 AM
lamont's lament QUOTE (jonathan83 @ May 29 2006, 08:21 AM)the... May 29 2006, 07:37 AM
FORSAKENR320 i have a hard time swallowing a religion that base... May 29 2006, 07:43 AM
Rocky churches don't run on faith and love
you need... May 29 2006, 07:48 AM
lamont's lament well i need 12 hookers sent to my home every day.
... May 29 2006, 07:52 AM
Erik B. QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ May 29 2006, 07:43 AM)i... May 29 2006, 08:08 AM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (Erik B. @ May 29 2006, 08:08 AM)Every ... May 29 2006, 08:20 AM
woody QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ May 29 2006, 07:43 AM)i... May 29 2006, 08:21 AM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (woody @ May 29 2006, 08:21 AM)and i... May 29 2006, 08:23 AM
woody go to church
see how many people don't stick ... May 29 2006, 08:25 AM
woody oh and by the way...
the people who go up and dow... May 29 2006, 08:25 AM
Erik B. QUOTE (jonathan83 @ May 29 2006, 07:21 AM)it... May 29 2006, 08:31 AM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (woody @ May 29 2006, 08:25 AM)oh and b... May 29 2006, 08:36 AM
Erik B. QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ May 29 2006, 08:20 AM)a... May 29 2006, 08:36 AM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (Erik B. @ May 29 2006, 08:36 AM)A requ... May 29 2006, 08:42 AM
Erik B. QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ May 29 2006, 08:42 AM)y... May 29 2006, 08:46 AM
lamont's lament QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ May 29 2006, 09:36 AM)t... May 29 2006, 09:06 AM
Overlord QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ May 29 2006, 08:36 AM)t... May 29 2006, 10:06 AM
Overlord QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ May 29 2006, 08:20 AM)t... May 29 2006, 10:07 AM
Erik B. QUOTE (Lancifer @ May 29 2006, 10:07 AM)god h... May 29 2006, 10:28 AM
Spectatrix QUOTE (jonathan83 @ May 29 2006, 05:09 AM)nah... May 29 2006, 10:30 AM
jonathan83 QUOTE (lamont's lament @ May 29 2006, 07:... May 29 2006, 10:40 AM
Jim QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 29 2006, 09:30 AM)Wel... May 29 2006, 10:42 AM
jonathan83 QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 29 2006, 10:30 AM)Wel... May 29 2006, 11:02 AM
jwttu QUOTE (jonathan83 @ May 29 2006, 11:02 AM)no,... May 29 2006, 11:07 AM
Overlord QUOTE (jonathan83 @ May 29 2006, 11:02 AM)no,... May 29 2006, 11:07 AM
Overlord QUOTE (Lancifer @ May 29 2006, 10:07 AM)god h... May 29 2006, 11:09 AM
Jim QUOTE (jonathan83 @ May 29 2006, 10:02 AM)no,... May 29 2006, 11:13 AM
Erik B. QUOTE (jonathan83 @ May 29 2006, 05:09 AM)How... May 29 2006, 11:36 AM
chook QUOTE (jonathan83 @ May 29 2006, 05:09 AM)How... May 29 2006, 03:18 PM
chook QUOTE (Rocky @ May 29 2006, 07:48 AM)churches... May 29 2006, 03:20 PM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (jonathan83 @ May 29 2006, 11:02 AM)why... May 29 2006, 05:41 PM
Spectatrix Um, Brandon, Catholics don't think that saints... May 29 2006, 11:32 PM
woody RE: Catholicism May 29 2006, 11:37 PM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 29 2006, 11:32 PM)Um,... May 30 2006, 09:27 AM
Spectatrix QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ May 30 2006, 09:27 AM)h... May 30 2006, 09:35 AM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 30 2006, 09:35 AM)Loo... May 30 2006, 09:38 AM
nickluto Catholicism messes you up. Makes you feel guilty a... May 30 2006, 12:41 PM
jonathan83 QUOTE (Jim @ May 29 2006, 11:13 AM)Stop contr... May 30 2006, 09:41 PM
jonathan83 QUOTE (Erik B. @ May 29 2006, 11:36 AM)For st... May 30 2006, 09:43 PM
Erik B. As far as I know, the saints have no power to actu... May 30 2006, 10:41 PM
chook QUOTE (jonathan83 @ May 30 2006, 09:43 PM)ok ... May 31 2006, 12:18 AM
jonathan83 QUOTE (chook @ May 31 2006, 12:18 AM)you are ... May 31 2006, 05:16 AM
lamont's lament QUOTE (jonathan83 @ May 31 2006, 06:16 AM)no ... May 31 2006, 05:20 AM
jonathan83 QUOTE (lamont's lament @ May 31 2006, 05:... May 31 2006, 09:37 AM
chook QUOTE (jonathan83 @ May 31 2006, 09:37 AM)wha... May 31 2006, 09:45 AM
Spectatrix QUOTE (jonathan83 @ May 31 2006, 09:37 AM)wha... May 31 2006, 09:51 AM
jonathan83 QUOTE (chook @ May 31 2006, 09:45 AM)Yeah, Je... May 31 2006, 05:28 PM
jonathan83 QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 31 2006, 09:51 AM)How... May 31 2006, 05:30 PM
Spectatrix One of my Xanga acquaintances discussed this back ... May 31 2006, 06:21 PM
Renegadepeon This thread is soaked in futility. May 31 2006, 06:47 PM
Jim I just don't get why praying to someone who is... May 31 2006, 07:12 PM
Erik B. QUOTE (Jim @ May 31 2006, 07:12 PM)I just don... May 31 2006, 07:24 PM
chook QUOTE (jonathan83 @ May 31 2006, 05:28 PM)i r... May 31 2006, 08:22 PM
Spectatrix QUOTE (Erik B. @ May 31 2006, 07:24 PM)Aside ... May 31 2006, 08:43 PM
nickluto QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 31 2006, 08:43 PM)Wel... May 31 2006, 09:16 PM
GhostofTHECHICKEN You people are making jesus angry May 31 2006, 10:54 PM
Spectatrix QUOTE (nickluto @ May 31 2006, 09:16 PM)Figur... May 31 2006, 11:35 PM
jonathan83 QUOTE (Jim @ May 31 2006, 07:12 PM)I just don... Jun 1 2006, 06:00 AM
woody define worshipping....
i'm not saying you... Jun 1 2006, 06:14 AM
jonathan83 no, i don't think it's worshipping..but it... Jun 1 2006, 06:21 AM
woody granted...
but given the argument...you're no... Jun 1 2006, 06:23 AM
Testm0nkey wouldnt praying to someone who is dead for help be... Jun 1 2006, 06:29 AM
jonathan83 QUOTE (woody @ Jun 1 2006, 06:23 AM)you'r... Jun 1 2006, 06:58 AM
Spectatrix QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Jun 1 2006, 06:29 AM)woul... Jun 1 2006, 08:27 AM
Testm0nkey my mom sounds like a horrible catholic Jun 1 2006, 09:12 AM
Erik B. QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Jun 1 2006, 09:50 AM)that... Jun 1 2006, 11:09 AM
Spectatrix QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Jun 1 2006, 09:50 AM)and.... Jun 1 2006, 11:20 AM
Erik B. I think more experienced apologists can explain th... Jun 1 2006, 11:21 AM
FORSAKENR320 RE: Catholicism Jun 1 2006, 11:23 AM
FORSAKENR320 i laughed Jun 1 2006, 01:03 PM
Spectatrix QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Jun 1 2006, 01:03 PM)i ... Jun 1 2006, 01:18 PM
Erik B. QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jun 1 2006, 11:20 AM)Play... Jun 1 2006, 01:49 PM![]() ![]() |
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