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post May 14 2006, 08:10 PM
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Laura Bush eschews marriage ban campaigns

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WASHINGTON -- Some election-year advice to Republicans from a high-ranking source who has the president's ear: Don't use a proposed constitutional amendment against gay marriage as a campaign tool.
Just who is that political strategist? Laura Bush.
The first lady told "Fox News Sunday" that she thinks the American people want a debate on the issue. But, she said, "I don't think it should be used as a campaign tool, obviously."
"It requires a lot of sensitivity to just talk about the issue -- a lot of sensitivity," she said.
The Senate will debate legislation that would have the Constitution define marriage as the union between a man and a woman early next month, Majority Leader Bill Frist said on CNN's "Late Edition."
President Bush supports the amendment, but Vice President Dick Cheney does not. Cheney's daughter, Mary, is a lesbian and has been speaking out against the marriage amendment as she promotes her new book, "Now It's My Turn."
Mary Cheney wrote that she almost quit working on the Bush-Cheney campaign in 2004 because of Bush's position on gay marriage. Asked Sunday about reports that White House political adviser Karl Rove and other Republicans want to use the issue to mobilize conservatives for the midterm election, she said she hoped "no one would think about trying to amend the Constitution as a political strategy."
"I certainly don't know what conversations have gone on between Karl and anybody up on the Hill," she said on Fox. "But you know, what I can say is look, amending the Constitution with this amendment, this piece of legislation, is a bad piece of legislation. It is writing discrimination into the Constitution, and, as I say, it is fundamentally wrong."
But Frist said he would defend the amendment even to Dick Cheney.
"I basically say, Mr. Vice President, right now marriage is under attack in this country," Frist said on CNN. "And we've seen activist judges overturning state by state law, where state legislatures have passed laws defining marriage between a man and a woman, and that's being overturned by a handful of activist judges around the country. And that is why we need an amendment to come to the floor of the United States Senate to define marriage as that union between one man and one woman."


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post May 18 2006, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE (Throwdown @ May 18 2006, 05:16 PM)
"the bible/koran/whatever forbids it" is also a legal justification for ohh murder, theft, lying in a court of law....

maybe we should throw those laws out too? or maybe we should throw out our entire legal system, since 99% of laws are based on religious beliefs and teachings

or maybe you're just an idiot

If I murder someone, I'm hurting them. Lying in a court of law ties up the legal process.

Really, how does allowing gay marriage hurt anyone? And what is the pressing state need to make it illegal?

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I get tired of people pigeonholing gay people as these promiscuous people who have gay parties and orgies and shit. They are normal fucking people like everyone else, they are capable of loving one person for the rest of their life.
Its the same thing as saying that you look like a redneck so you must own a truck, have a heavy southern accent, drink alot of beer, and beat the crap out of your wife/girlfriend everyday.


Sadly, there's a little bit more truth to those allegations than we'd like to admit. However, it's been proven that when in a monogamous (yeah, I prolly fucked up the spelling) relationship, gay relationships aren't all that different from straight ones. This includes amount of sex partners and incidence of AIDS.


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- pebkac   Marriage Amendment   May 14 2006, 08:10 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE Cheney's daughter, Mary, is a lesbian an...   May 15 2006, 09:34 AM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 15 2006, 09:34 AM)yeah...   May 15 2006, 09:47 AM
- - prefix   I want to barf whenever they try to put shit like ...   May 15 2006, 05:12 PM
- - kcroxyoursox   QUOTE (prefix @ May 15 2006, 05:12 PM)I want ...   May 15 2006, 05:13 PM
- - M1N10N   <insert everything that has already been mentio...   May 15 2006, 09:49 PM
- - Jim   Penis.   May 15 2006, 09:52 PM
- - lamont's lament   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 15 2006, 10:47 AM)We ...   May 15 2006, 10:38 PM
- - zetec   jesus christ it's illegal to discriminate for ...   May 15 2006, 11:36 PM
- - pebkac   QUOTE (zetec @ May 16 2006, 12:36 AM)jesus ch...   May 15 2006, 11:37 PM
- - prefix   Well everyone here can recognize that we are the l...   May 16 2006, 02:43 PM
- - woody   QUOTE (prefix @ May 16 2006, 02:43 PM)Well ev...   May 17 2006, 12:03 AM
- - FORSAKENR320   RE: Marriage Amendment   May 17 2006, 10:26 PM
- - TeK   lol dude your going to burn for that   May 17 2006, 10:40 PM
- - woody   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ May 17 2006, 10:26 PM) ...   May 17 2006, 11:38 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE (prefix @ May 15 2006, 06:12 PM)I want ...   May 18 2006, 10:43 AM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 18 2006, 10:43 AM)what...   May 18 2006, 11:45 AM
- - rabble   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 18 2006, 11:45 AM)Gen...   May 18 2006, 12:46 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE (rabble @ May 18 2006, 01:46 PM)Because...   May 18 2006, 12:54 PM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 18 2006, 12:54 PM)yeah...   May 18 2006, 01:01 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 18 2006, 02:01 PM)1) ...   May 18 2006, 03:27 PM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 18 2006, 03:27 PM)have...   May 18 2006, 03:39 PM
- - GhostofTHECHICKEN   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 18 2006, 03:39 PM)Yea...   May 18 2006, 04:06 PM
- - Throwdown   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 18 2006, 01:01 PM)I...   May 18 2006, 04:16 PM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Throwdown @ May 18 2006, 04:16 PM)...   May 18 2006, 04:25 PM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (GhostofTHECHICKEN @ May 18 2006, 04:06...   May 18 2006, 04:26 PM
- - Spectatrix   In ANY case, even I thought gay marriage was OMG B...   May 18 2006, 04:31 PM
- - rabble   I get tired of people pigeonholing gay people as t...   May 18 2006, 04:37 PM
- - koreanp1e   a rationale of banning gay marriage: they cannot r...   May 18 2006, 04:39 PM
- - rabble   QUOTE (koreanp1e @ May 18 2006, 04:39 PM)a ra...   May 18 2006, 04:44 PM
- - pebkac   QUOTE (Throwdown @ May 18 2006, 05:16 PM)...   May 18 2006, 04:45 PM
- - GhostofTHECHICKEN   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 18 2006, 04:26 PM)Wha...   May 18 2006, 04:45 PM
- - GhostofTHECHICKEN   QUOTE (koreanp1e @ May 18 2006, 04:39 PM)a ra...   May 18 2006, 04:46 PM
- - pebkac   QUOTE (koreanp1e @ May 18 2006, 05:39 PM)a ra...   May 18 2006, 04:46 PM
- - pebkac   QUOTE (GhostofTHECHICKEN @ May 18 2006, 05:45...   May 18 2006, 04:47 PM
- - GhostofTHECHICKEN   QUOTE (pebkac @ May 18 2006, 04:47 PM)I don...   May 18 2006, 04:47 PM
- - pebkac   QUOTE (GhostofTHECHICKEN @ May 18 2006, 05:47...   May 18 2006, 04:48 PM
- - Spectatrix   I really doubt that many people would marry JUST f...   May 18 2006, 05:15 PM
- - woody   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 18 2006, 05:15 PM)I r...   May 18 2006, 11:58 PM
- - chook   QUOTE (GhostofTHECHICKEN @ May 18 2006, 04:46...   May 19 2006, 12:02 AM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (woody @ May 18 2006, 11:58 PM)they...   May 19 2006, 09:31 AM


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