Timbo acting like a retard douche, again, and losing an argument, again Options

[Throwdown]

i saw this in the austin american statesman today. you have to register to view the article so i just pasted it here

The new generation of video game consoles from Sony Corp., Nintendo Co. and Microsoft Corp. have more than zippy processors and flashy graphics in common: They're also getting serious about online services.

Although earlier models also provide the necessary plugs to enter most online worlds, they've done little to capitalize on them.

That's changing with the upcoming PlayStation 3 from Sony and the Wii from Nintendo, as well as the Xbox 360 released by Microsoft late last year.

All three contenders in this round of console wars have announced broad plans to turn their systems into networked hubs that deliver an array of content and services beyond just games � features such as videoconferencing and downloadable movies.

Just how they will stack up should be a central theme of this week's Electronic Entertainment Expo in Los Angeles, the game industry's de facto annual conference.

As always, the overall focus of the expo, E3 for short, will be actual games, many of which make their debut at the show. But the days of unconnected gaming are numbered.

In fact, a new AP-AOL Games poll of 1,046 gamers finds that among the four in 10 Americans who play games on computers or consoles, 45 percent play online. And they spend more money and time on gaming than those who only play offline.

The market for game downloads on consoles and PCs, meanwhile, is poised to grow from less than $1 million in 2005 to nearly $4 billion by 2011, according to ABI Research.

"It is the future that we have to move toward," said Denis Dyack, whose company, Silicon Knights, is working on "Too Human," a sci-fi multiplayer game for Xbox 360. "What you get online cannot be duplicated. When you play with your friends, that creates something intangible that can't be done in any kind of linear experience."

The shift to online comes four years after Microsoft took the first step and debuted its $50-per-year Xbox Live service for the original Xbox.

Back then, according to Microsoft, less than 10 percent of gamers played online. Today, about half of the 3.2 million Xbox 360 units sold so far are connected.

Even with more than 2 million paying subscribers, Microsoft's early lead is not insurmountable for its rivals, said Josh Larson, director of GameSpot Trax, an industry service that measures emerging trends in gaming.

Sony has a shot at convincing gamers that the PS3 can deliver a comprehensive online service that's simple and affordable, Larson said, despite the company's history of releasing proprietary, hard-to-use standards.

"The software is really the killer app," he said. "We know roughly what the systems are going to look like. Now it's just 'show us what we can do with it.' "

Though full details haven't been released, Sony executives have positioned the PS3's online service as a family media hub with voice and video communications over the Internet. Players will be able to buy downloadable extras such as game demos and virtual weapons and armor used in play.

Sony also has access to the vast library of music and motion pictures owned by its entertainment subsidiaries.

Nintendo, meanwhile, will stick to games and dip into its decades-old library, offering a "Virtual Console" download service to play classics such as "Mario Bros" and "Zelda."

Sony and Nintendo haven't announced prices for their online services or consoles. As with Xbox Live, players will need a high-speed Internet connection and related networking gear.

that is absolutely ridiculous imo. call me old school or a dinosaur, but i enjoy just sitting down, turning a system on and playing a game. i've never played online, nor do i have a desire to ever play Madden against a frenchman. they're saying that of the 40% who play games, 45% play online. that's only 18% of gamers, and they're now trying to make all consoles online only? sounds like another ploy to screw gamers out of more and more money

[Timbo]

Is this assertion somehow unique to PS3/Blu-Ray? If so, please explain how/why. It seems to me that your equation should apply to all console and PC games, if it's true. Jim gave an example of two games that cost the same but had vastly different amounts of content, which seems to bring your equation into question. Is that so hard to understand?

But for god's sake, cut it out with the BIG LETTERS and your ad hominem jabs, yeesh.

By the way, who changed the topic title? Will?

You should really stop ignoring what people have ACTUALLY written in earlier posts and you should also stop putting words in their mouths. Libel makes Jesus cry =( Read on FOR WHOAAAA... Read the whole thing too. Make sure you take it all in. Make sure you don't purposely misconstrue or imply things that weren't said, this time. WE'RE WATCHING YOU

If you'd paid attention to the context of this whole thread and to what was ACTUALLY said, like you were told , you'd clearly see that what I said, reproduced here:

You leave out one very important equation in this mess:

More Content == More Cost == Higher Prices

           

Timbo

WAS IN RESPONSE TO:

I'm actually showing that not to be true. The only major studio that is NOT backing Sony right now is Universal. And, it's not because they think Blu-Ray will be bad, it's for other reasons (or so they say).

And, it's wasted space? Hello, if Blu-Ray can hold 4x the data regular DVD's can hold, that means games can be 4-times longer, which means good things (in my opinion). Also, movies like the Lord of the Rings and what not that come in three disc packages can now be put into one disc.

Which was.

About.

BLU-RAY

(For your eyes only =o: http://www.techsans.net/forums/index.php?s...ndpost&p=21661)

How you missed that is completely beyond me Humourous, but not outright surprising, given the most recent of your posts

Now then! If I said that in response to what Lil' Jimmy posted (WHICH WAS ABOUT BLU-RAY(still with me?)) what the fuck do you think I meant? I didn't even MENTION current-gen games; I was ONLY talking about Blu-Ray, not the current gen games. That was all we were talking about until one of you two brought up something about current-gen games, which, as you see, is not what we're talking about. STAY ON TOPIC.

Now, that doesn't mean that *current-gen games* with more content than others don't have to cost more than other *current-gen games*, BUT I DIDN'T SAY THAT. YOU DID. STAY ON TOPIC.
It ain't never a good idea to put words in peoples' moufs without their permission Or unless it's really, really funny.

Tell me which of those two games he mentioned are on Blu-Ray (since that's all that I was talking about), and you might actually have something substantive to say. But! Since it appears you enjoy the warmth and comfort available only to those who're limber enough to park their head up their own ass for hours at a time, I shall lay it out for you. IN SONG!

*No doubt you can surely point to current-gen games, which!
make my equation AWESOME, like a BLT sand-which!
However, what I said rings ES-PEC-IALLY true!
for none other than the P-S-3-CREW!

EVERYBODY SAMBA! AYAYAYAYAYAYAYACHORUS!

THE PS3! THE PS3! THE PS3 SMELLS-A LIKE PEE-PEE!
IF YOU PAY 600 FOR THE BIG BLACK TOWA!
EVERYONE CAN SEE! QUITE-CLEAR-LY!
WHAT YOU JUST PAID FOR ONE HELLUVAGOLDENSHOWA!

*BASS SOLO*

The thing you seem to be choosing to ignore,
is that the Blu-Ray format is a hell of a whore,
using proprietary tech exclusive to So-ny!,
which can only mean no mo' FANBOI MONIES!

*...........ANOTHER BASS SOLO \m/ >_< \m/*

Proprietary techs have unique needs,
Like special ENCODING![decoding!]COPYPROTECTION![d-r-m!],
It all costs the same golden anal beads,
When shoved up the consumers' ass, makes them go "Hm?"

EVERYBODY NOW!

THE PS3! THE PS3! THE PS3 SMELLS-A LIKE PEE-PEE!
IF YOU PAY 600 FOR THE BIG BLACK TOWA!
EVERYONE CAN SEE! QUITE-CLEAR-LY!
WHAT YOU JUST PAID FOR ONE HELLUVAGOLDENSHOWA!*

(applause, cheers, titty-flashes, souvenir panties, guitarSMASH, things on fire, cats and dogs living together, MASS HYSTERIA!)

"WHO NEEDS RHYTHM!"
--Timbo, 2006

So uh... I guess the point is like... Stuff costs the consumer more because it, like, costs Sony more to make... or something...

IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND!

I understand quite well the context of this thread

LIEZ! AND YOUR MOM HAS A SMELLY FACE!

But for god's sake, cut it out with the BIG LETTERS and your ad hominem jabs, yeesh.

Don't like it? Get outta the thread. I learned the technique at Uncle Al's School For The Severely Gifted Get googlin'!

Your "logic" would work if, and only if, precedence didn't prove it wrong.

Heh, "precedence". People said the same thing about American slavery when it was still alive and kickin'.

Bottom Line: Logic is infallible; History often falters. Bitch.

Edit: Sorry for late reply; the busy keeps me. And the song took a while to write, in all its crappy glory O_O d

Timbo