Apr 29 2006, 11:11 AM
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![]() From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
http://blog.wired.com/27BStroke6/
QUOTE The federal government intends to invoke the rarely used "State Secrets Privilege" -- the legal equivalent of a nuclear bomb -- in the Electronic Frontier Foundation's class action lawsuit against AT&T that alleges the telecom collaborated with the government's secret spying on American citizens. Wow. Dubya's covering his own and his partners' asses. -------------------- Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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May 3 2006, 05:29 PM
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![]() Retired Funk-bringer Group: Moderators Posts: 2,656 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Dallas Member No.: 14 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ May 3 2006, 04:52 PM) i realize this but the point is, you guys are upset about the wiretappings. at the time that they go get these retroactive warrants, the calls have already been listened to. nothing changes that. I understand there's no evidence admissible in court, but that's not what you guys are complaining about. You're complaining that the people were tapped in the first place, which doesn't change whether they get a retroactive warrant or not. no, we're upset about the ILLEGAL wiretappings. There's already a secret court for them to go to to make this legal, there's absolutely no reason they should need to circumvent it unless they're having to cover other shady activities. And jessica, aside from piracy online, which i'm somewhat more of an endorser of than straight out braggart about, what do i brag about doing illegal? Name me something. Impala, quit trying to use the same fear-mongering tactics already employed by the current administration and try and propose a logical argument. "WE GOTTA SPY ON YOU BECAUSE THERE BOUT TO LAUNCH TEH BOMBZ!" is no kind of rational argument, just an attempt to instill fear and pass it off as an argument. Furthermore, as already stated, the 3000 were only, ONLY for the FBI, not Homeland Security and CERTAINLY not for the NSA. It's Homeland Security's job to monitor for terrorism. The NSA's actual job is more or less unknown, aside from domestic spying. As I've already stated, for all we know they are spying on political enemies, not suspected terrorists. If they were spying on terrorists, there's be little to no good reason not to announce the fact, as has already been done with HS. It gives them good public opinion, lets the terrorists know we're after them, and creates a general all-around fuzzy feeling in your loins. A secret German Stazi-esque secret police organization, however... well fuck, watch the history channel sometime and see how well those typically turn out. -------------------- WAIT. I'm not finished.
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pebkac DOJ to drop bomb on EFF vs. AT&T Apr 29 2006, 11:11 AM
Spectatrix RE: DOJ to drop bomb on EFF vs. AT&T Apr 29 2006, 12:26 PM
Psykopath Anyone really suprised by this move?
Hated my a m... Apr 29 2006, 12:28 PM
Dogmeat Privacy hasn't existed in this country since 1... Apr 29 2006, 12:51 PM
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seriously i think it's t... Apr 29 2006, 03:54 PM
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impala454 wasn't this discussed a really long time ago? ... May 2 2006, 10:54 AM
zetec QUOTE (impala454 @ May 2 2006, 10:54 AM)wasn... May 2 2006, 02:28 PM
Spectatrix QUOTE (impala454 @ May 2 2006, 10:54 AM)it ma... May 2 2006, 02:39 PM
impala454 QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 2 2006, 03:39 PM)No i... May 2 2006, 03:15 PM
pebkac QUOTE (impala454 @ May 2 2006, 03:15 PM)i jus... May 2 2006, 03:56 PM
Spectatrix QUOTE (pebkac @ May 2 2006, 03:56 PM)If they ... May 2 2006, 07:04 PM
Renegadepeon Hey, let's arrest communists while we're a... May 2 2006, 07:35 PM
chook QUOTE (impala454 @ May 2 2006, 03:15 PM)i jus... May 2 2006, 10:33 PM
Divergent Reality QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ May 2 2006, 08:35 PM)He... May 2 2006, 11:48 PM
woody domestic spying has been going on for along time, ... May 2 2006, 11:50 PM
zetec QUOTE (impala454 @ May 2 2006, 03:15 PM)and z... May 3 2006, 12:31 AM
impala454 QUOTE (chook @ May 2 2006, 11:33 PM)Its a che... May 3 2006, 08:10 AM
impala454 QUOTE (zetec @ May 3 2006, 01:31 AM)that is p... May 3 2006, 08:10 AM
Psykopath QUOTE (impala454 @ May 3 2006, 09:10 AM)zetec... May 3 2006, 08:11 AM
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Spectatrix QUOTE (Psykopath @ May 3 2006, 08:18 AM)WIRET... May 3 2006, 09:27 AM
chook AWESOME! May 3 2006, 12:32 PM
JRockTTU QUOTE (zetec @ May 3 2006, 12:31 AM)that is p... May 3 2006, 02:24 PM
impala454 QUOTE (Psykopath @ May 3 2006, 09:18 AM)WIRET... May 3 2006, 03:15 PM
Testm0nkey trumped up charges steming from pseudo legal actio... May 3 2006, 03:26 PM
Psykopath QUOTE (impala454 @ May 3 2006, 04:15 PM)i kno... May 3 2006, 03:28 PM
pebkac QUOTE (impala454 @ May 3 2006, 03:15 PM)i kno... May 3 2006, 03:57 PM
impala454 QUOTE (pebkac @ May 3 2006, 04:57 PM)Ok, so w... May 3 2006, 03:59 PM
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Spectatrix QUOTE (impala454 @ May 3 2006, 03:59 PM)so do... May 3 2006, 04:29 PM
impala454 QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 3 2006, 05:29 PM)1) I... May 3 2006, 04:52 PM
JRockTTU QUOTE (zetec @ May 3 2006, 05:29 PM)And jessi... May 3 2006, 09:32 PM
zetec QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 3 2006, 09:32 PM)It was... May 3 2006, 09:34 PM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 3 2006, 09:32 PM)It was... May 3 2006, 09:34 PM
JRockTTU QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ May 3 2006, 09:34 PM)an... May 3 2006, 09:39 PM
zetec QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 3 2006, 09:39 PM)First ... May 3 2006, 09:40 PM
pebkac Just out of curiosity, what does zetec smoking mar... May 3 2006, 10:33 PM
Spectatrix QUOTE (pebkac @ May 3 2006, 10:33 PM)Just out... May 3 2006, 10:37 PM
pebkac QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 3 2006, 10:37 PM)Appa... May 3 2006, 10:45 PM
zetec QUOTE (pebkac @ May 3 2006, 10:45 PM)Yeah, th... May 3 2006, 11:20 PM
JRockTTU QUOTE (zetec @ May 3 2006, 11:20 PM)this is t... May 4 2006, 08:40 AM
Spectatrix QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 4 2006, 08:40 AM)but wh... May 4 2006, 09:03 AM
woody QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 4 2006, 08:40 AM)Everyb... May 4 2006, 09:18 AM
impala454 QUOTE (zetec @ May 3 2006, 06:29 PM)no, we... May 4 2006, 10:43 AM
impala454 QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 4 2006, 10:03 AM)So..... May 4 2006, 10:44 AM
Spectatrix QUOTE (impala454 @ May 4 2006, 10:43 AM)ok...... May 4 2006, 11:13 AM
JRockTTU QUOTE (woody @ May 4 2006, 09:18 AM)your post... May 4 2006, 11:17 AM
pebkac QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 4 2006, 08:40 AM)Everyb... May 4 2006, 11:35 AM
JRockTTU QUOTE (pebkac @ May 4 2006, 11:35 AM)You know... May 4 2006, 11:44 AM
chook QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 3 2006, 04:29 PM)1) I... May 4 2006, 01:08 PM
impala454 QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 4 2006, 12:13 PM)It p... May 4 2006, 04:30 PM
zetec QUOTE (impala454 @ May 4 2006, 04:30 PM)repur... May 4 2006, 06:25 PM
zetec lol writing paper on how the NSA and impala are ga... May 4 2006, 11:02 PM![]() ![]() |
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