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pebkac
post Apr 29 2006, 11:11 AM
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http://blog.wired.com/27BStroke6/

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The federal government intends to invoke the rarely used "State Secrets Privilege" -- the legal equivalent of a nuclear bomb -- in the Electronic Frontier Foundation's class action lawsuit against AT&T that alleges the telecom collaborated with the government's secret spying on American citizens.


Wow. Dubya's covering his own and his partners' asses.


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post May 3 2006, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ May 3 2006, 04:52 PM)
i realize this but the point is, you guys are upset about the wiretappings. at the time that they go get these retroactive warrants, the calls have already been listened to. nothing changes that. I understand there's no evidence admissible in court, but that's not what you guys are complaining about. You're complaining that the people were tapped in the first place, which doesn't change whether they get a retroactive warrant or not.

no, we're upset about the ILLEGAL wiretappings. There's already a secret court for them to go to to make this legal, there's absolutely no reason they should need to circumvent it unless they're having to cover other shady activities.

And jessica, aside from piracy online, which i'm somewhat more of an endorser of than straight out braggart about, what do i brag about doing illegal? Name me something.

Impala, quit trying to use the same fear-mongering tactics already employed by the current administration and try and propose a logical argument. "WE GOTTA SPY ON YOU BECAUSE THERE BOUT TO LAUNCH TEH BOMBZ!" is no kind of rational argument, just an attempt to instill fear and pass it off as an argument. Furthermore, as already stated, the 3000 were only, ONLY for the FBI, not Homeland Security and CERTAINLY not for the NSA. It's Homeland Security's job to monitor for terrorism. The NSA's actual job is more or less unknown, aside from domestic spying. As I've already stated, for all we know they are spying on political enemies, not suspected terrorists. If they were spying on terrorists, there's be little to no good reason not to announce the fact, as has already been done with HS. It gives them good public opinion, lets the terrorists know we're after them, and creates a general all-around fuzzy feeling in your loins. A secret German Stazi-esque secret police organization, however... well fuck, watch the history channel sometime and see how well those typically turn out.


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- pebkac   DOJ to drop bomb on EFF vs. AT&T   Apr 29 2006, 11:11 AM
- - Spectatrix   RE: DOJ to drop bomb on EFF vs. AT&T   Apr 29 2006, 12:26 PM
- - Psykopath   Anyone really suprised by this move? Hated my a m...   Apr 29 2006, 12:28 PM
- - Dogmeat   Privacy hasn't existed in this country since 1...   Apr 29 2006, 12:51 PM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Apr 29 2006, 12:51 PM)Privac...   Apr 29 2006, 01:07 PM
- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Apr 29 2006, 01:07 PM)Tha...   Apr 29 2006, 01:10 PM
- - zetec   this is fucking gay. seriously i think it's t...   Apr 29 2006, 03:54 PM
- - nickluto   legal nuclear bomb? so it instantly incinerates hu...   Apr 29 2006, 06:40 PM
- - nickluto   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Apr 29 2006, 12:28 PM)Anyo...   Apr 29 2006, 06:41 PM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (nickluto @ Apr 29 2006, 06:41 PM)Hated...   Apr 29 2006, 07:21 PM
- - Throwdown   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Apr 29 2006, 01:07 PM)Tha...   Apr 29 2006, 07:30 PM
- - Psykopath   QUOTE (nickluto @ Apr 29 2006, 07:41 PM)Hated...   Apr 29 2006, 07:38 PM
- - woody   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Apr 29 2006, 01:07 PM)Tha...   May 1 2006, 12:18 AM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (woody @ May 1 2006, 12:18 AM)are you u...   May 2 2006, 10:45 AM
- - impala454   wasn't this discussed a really long time ago? ...   May 2 2006, 10:54 AM
- - zetec   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 2 2006, 10:54 AM)wasn...   May 2 2006, 02:28 PM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 2 2006, 10:54 AM)it ma...   May 2 2006, 02:39 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 2 2006, 03:39 PM)No i...   May 2 2006, 03:15 PM
- - pebkac   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 2 2006, 03:15 PM)i jus...   May 2 2006, 03:56 PM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (pebkac @ May 2 2006, 03:56 PM)If they ...   May 2 2006, 07:04 PM
- - Renegadepeon   Hey, let's arrest communists while we're a...   May 2 2006, 07:35 PM
- - chook   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 2 2006, 03:15 PM)i jus...   May 2 2006, 10:33 PM
- - Divergent Reality   QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ May 2 2006, 08:35 PM)He...   May 2 2006, 11:48 PM
- - woody   domestic spying has been going on for along time, ...   May 2 2006, 11:50 PM
- - zetec   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 2 2006, 03:15 PM)and z...   May 3 2006, 12:31 AM
- - impala454   QUOTE (chook @ May 2 2006, 11:33 PM)Its a che...   May 3 2006, 08:10 AM
- - impala454   QUOTE (zetec @ May 3 2006, 01:31 AM)that is p...   May 3 2006, 08:10 AM
- - Psykopath   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 3 2006, 09:10 AM)zetec...   May 3 2006, 08:11 AM
- - impala454   QUOTE (Psykopath @ May 3 2006, 09:11 AM)yet y...   May 3 2006, 08:12 AM
- - Psykopath   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 3 2006, 09:12 AM)how s...   May 3 2006, 08:18 AM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Psykopath @ May 3 2006, 08:18 AM)WIRET...   May 3 2006, 09:27 AM
- - chook   AWESOME!   May 3 2006, 12:32 PM
- - JRockTTU   QUOTE (zetec @ May 3 2006, 12:31 AM)that is p...   May 3 2006, 02:24 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE (Psykopath @ May 3 2006, 09:18 AM)WIRET...   May 3 2006, 03:15 PM
- - Testm0nkey   trumped up charges steming from pseudo legal actio...   May 3 2006, 03:26 PM
- - Psykopath   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 3 2006, 04:15 PM)i kno...   May 3 2006, 03:28 PM
- - pebkac   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 3 2006, 03:15 PM)i kno...   May 3 2006, 03:57 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE (pebkac @ May 3 2006, 04:57 PM)Ok, so w...   May 3 2006, 03:59 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ May 3 2006, 04:26 PM)some...   May 3 2006, 04:00 PM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 3 2006, 03:59 PM)so do...   May 3 2006, 04:29 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 3 2006, 05:29 PM)1) I...   May 3 2006, 04:52 PM
- - zetec   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 3 2006, 04:52 PM)i rea...   May 3 2006, 05:29 PM
- - JRockTTU   QUOTE (zetec @ May 3 2006, 05:29 PM)And jessi...   May 3 2006, 09:32 PM
- - zetec   QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 3 2006, 09:32 PM)It was...   May 3 2006, 09:34 PM
- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 3 2006, 09:32 PM)It was...   May 3 2006, 09:34 PM
- - JRockTTU   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ May 3 2006, 09:34 PM)an...   May 3 2006, 09:39 PM
- - zetec   QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 3 2006, 09:39 PM)First ...   May 3 2006, 09:40 PM
- - pebkac   Just out of curiosity, what does zetec smoking mar...   May 3 2006, 10:33 PM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (pebkac @ May 3 2006, 10:33 PM)Just out...   May 3 2006, 10:37 PM
- - pebkac   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 3 2006, 10:37 PM)Appa...   May 3 2006, 10:45 PM
- - zetec   QUOTE (pebkac @ May 3 2006, 10:45 PM)Yeah, th...   May 3 2006, 11:20 PM
- - JRockTTU   QUOTE (zetec @ May 3 2006, 11:20 PM)this is t...   May 4 2006, 08:40 AM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 4 2006, 08:40 AM)but wh...   May 4 2006, 09:03 AM
- - woody   QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 4 2006, 08:40 AM)Everyb...   May 4 2006, 09:18 AM
- - impala454   QUOTE (zetec @ May 3 2006, 06:29 PM)no, we...   May 4 2006, 10:43 AM
- - impala454   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 4 2006, 10:03 AM)So.....   May 4 2006, 10:44 AM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 4 2006, 10:43 AM)ok......   May 4 2006, 11:13 AM
- - JRockTTU   QUOTE (woody @ May 4 2006, 09:18 AM)your post...   May 4 2006, 11:17 AM
- - pebkac   QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 4 2006, 08:40 AM)Everyb...   May 4 2006, 11:35 AM
- - JRockTTU   QUOTE (pebkac @ May 4 2006, 11:35 AM)You know...   May 4 2006, 11:44 AM
- - chook   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 3 2006, 04:29 PM)1) I...   May 4 2006, 01:08 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 4 2006, 12:13 PM)It p...   May 4 2006, 04:30 PM
- - zetec   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 4 2006, 04:30 PM)repur...   May 4 2006, 06:25 PM
- - zetec   lol writing paper on how the NSA and impala are ga...   May 4 2006, 11:02 PM


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