Apr 29 2006, 11:11 AM
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http://blog.wired.com/27BStroke6/
QUOTE The federal government intends to invoke the rarely used "State Secrets Privilege" -- the legal equivalent of a nuclear bomb -- in the Electronic Frontier Foundation's class action lawsuit against AT&T that alleges the telecom collaborated with the government's secret spying on American citizens. Wow. Dubya's covering his own and his partners' asses. -------------------- Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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May 3 2006, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE (zetec @ May 3 2006, 12:31 AM) that is possibly the stupidest thing i've ever heard. for one, there's a very good chance the NSA isn't there to stop terrorism -- homeland security is the one doing the taps through the FISA court for that. two, i'm just talking about the FBI there. not Homeland Security or the NSA. three, oh wow, 3000 isn't much. but we also don't know WHY they are being tapped or what they're suspected of, if anything. for all we know, the only people being tapped by the NSA are people that the government sees as "enemies", and i don't mean the blowie-shit-up kind. I'm talking "deepthroat" kind, or members of the ACLU or the EFF. four, what happened to innocent until proven guilty? seriously, thats some dumb fucking logic right there. we have a court system, it grants approval to almost everything. there's no reason for them NOT to use that. yes, domestic spying has been going on a long time, and there's a LEGAL way for them to do it. If they're having to circumvent those means, there's something else going on that we should probably look into. btw, "States Secrets Privelege" is technically only common law, hopefully the judge in this case (characterized as a "free thinker" by some article i read earlier today and don't have offhand) will actually refuse the request by the DOJ to dismiss the case... which has never been done before, but is nonetheless his privelege. I think it's funny when someone who brags about breaking the law all of the time gives the government so much shit about doing something that is in a legal gray area. -------------------- LANCE IS PRO-CENSORSHIP! HE IS CENSORING MY LOVE FOR THE LORD!
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pebkac DOJ to drop bomb on EFF vs. AT&T Apr 29 2006, 11:11 AM
Spectatrix RE: DOJ to drop bomb on EFF vs. AT&T Apr 29 2006, 12:26 PM
Psykopath Anyone really suprised by this move?
Hated my a m... Apr 29 2006, 12:28 PM
Dogmeat Privacy hasn't existed in this country since 1... Apr 29 2006, 12:51 PM
Spectatrix QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Apr 29 2006, 12:51 PM)Privac... Apr 29 2006, 01:07 PM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Apr 29 2006, 01:07 PM)Tha... Apr 29 2006, 01:10 PM
zetec this is fucking gay.
seriously i think it's t... Apr 29 2006, 03:54 PM
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nickluto QUOTE (Psykopath @ Apr 29 2006, 12:28 PM)Anyo... Apr 29 2006, 06:41 PM
Spectatrix QUOTE (nickluto @ Apr 29 2006, 06:41 PM)Hated... Apr 29 2006, 07:21 PM
Throwdown QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Apr 29 2006, 01:07 PM)Tha... Apr 29 2006, 07:30 PM
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woody QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Apr 29 2006, 01:07 PM)Tha... May 1 2006, 12:18 AM
Spectatrix QUOTE (woody @ May 1 2006, 12:18 AM)are you u... May 2 2006, 10:45 AM
impala454 wasn't this discussed a really long time ago? ... May 2 2006, 10:54 AM
zetec QUOTE (impala454 @ May 2 2006, 10:54 AM)wasn... May 2 2006, 02:28 PM
Spectatrix QUOTE (impala454 @ May 2 2006, 10:54 AM)it ma... May 2 2006, 02:39 PM
impala454 QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 2 2006, 03:39 PM)No i... May 2 2006, 03:15 PM
pebkac QUOTE (impala454 @ May 2 2006, 03:15 PM)i jus... May 2 2006, 03:56 PM
Spectatrix QUOTE (pebkac @ May 2 2006, 03:56 PM)If they ... May 2 2006, 07:04 PM
Renegadepeon Hey, let's arrest communists while we're a... May 2 2006, 07:35 PM
chook QUOTE (impala454 @ May 2 2006, 03:15 PM)i jus... May 2 2006, 10:33 PM
Divergent Reality QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ May 2 2006, 08:35 PM)He... May 2 2006, 11:48 PM
woody domestic spying has been going on for along time, ... May 2 2006, 11:50 PM
zetec QUOTE (impala454 @ May 2 2006, 03:15 PM)and z... May 3 2006, 12:31 AM
impala454 QUOTE (chook @ May 2 2006, 11:33 PM)Its a che... May 3 2006, 08:10 AM
impala454 QUOTE (zetec @ May 3 2006, 01:31 AM)that is p... May 3 2006, 08:10 AM
Psykopath QUOTE (impala454 @ May 3 2006, 09:10 AM)zetec... May 3 2006, 08:11 AM
impala454 QUOTE (Psykopath @ May 3 2006, 09:11 AM)yet y... May 3 2006, 08:12 AM
Psykopath QUOTE (impala454 @ May 3 2006, 09:12 AM)how s... May 3 2006, 08:18 AM
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chook AWESOME! May 3 2006, 12:32 PM
impala454 QUOTE (Psykopath @ May 3 2006, 09:18 AM)WIRET... May 3 2006, 03:15 PM
Testm0nkey trumped up charges steming from pseudo legal actio... May 3 2006, 03:26 PM
Psykopath QUOTE (impala454 @ May 3 2006, 04:15 PM)i kno... May 3 2006, 03:28 PM
pebkac QUOTE (impala454 @ May 3 2006, 03:15 PM)i kno... May 3 2006, 03:57 PM
impala454 QUOTE (pebkac @ May 3 2006, 04:57 PM)Ok, so w... May 3 2006, 03:59 PM
impala454 QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ May 3 2006, 04:26 PM)some... May 3 2006, 04:00 PM
Spectatrix QUOTE (impala454 @ May 3 2006, 03:59 PM)so do... May 3 2006, 04:29 PM
impala454 QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 3 2006, 05:29 PM)1) I... May 3 2006, 04:52 PM
zetec QUOTE (impala454 @ May 3 2006, 04:52 PM)i rea... May 3 2006, 05:29 PM
JRockTTU QUOTE (zetec @ May 3 2006, 05:29 PM)And jessi... May 3 2006, 09:32 PM
zetec QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 3 2006, 09:32 PM)It was... May 3 2006, 09:34 PM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 3 2006, 09:32 PM)It was... May 3 2006, 09:34 PM
JRockTTU QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ May 3 2006, 09:34 PM)an... May 3 2006, 09:39 PM
zetec QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 3 2006, 09:39 PM)First ... May 3 2006, 09:40 PM
pebkac Just out of curiosity, what does zetec smoking mar... May 3 2006, 10:33 PM
Spectatrix QUOTE (pebkac @ May 3 2006, 10:33 PM)Just out... May 3 2006, 10:37 PM
pebkac QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 3 2006, 10:37 PM)Appa... May 3 2006, 10:45 PM
zetec QUOTE (pebkac @ May 3 2006, 10:45 PM)Yeah, th... May 3 2006, 11:20 PM
JRockTTU QUOTE (zetec @ May 3 2006, 11:20 PM)this is t... May 4 2006, 08:40 AM
Spectatrix QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 4 2006, 08:40 AM)but wh... May 4 2006, 09:03 AM
woody QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 4 2006, 08:40 AM)Everyb... May 4 2006, 09:18 AM
impala454 QUOTE (zetec @ May 3 2006, 06:29 PM)no, we... May 4 2006, 10:43 AM
impala454 QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 4 2006, 10:03 AM)So..... May 4 2006, 10:44 AM
Spectatrix QUOTE (impala454 @ May 4 2006, 10:43 AM)ok...... May 4 2006, 11:13 AM
JRockTTU QUOTE (woody @ May 4 2006, 09:18 AM)your post... May 4 2006, 11:17 AM
pebkac QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 4 2006, 08:40 AM)Everyb... May 4 2006, 11:35 AM
JRockTTU QUOTE (pebkac @ May 4 2006, 11:35 AM)You know... May 4 2006, 11:44 AM
chook QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 3 2006, 04:29 PM)1) I... May 4 2006, 01:08 PM
impala454 QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 4 2006, 12:13 PM)It p... May 4 2006, 04:30 PM
zetec QUOTE (impala454 @ May 4 2006, 04:30 PM)repur... May 4 2006, 06:25 PM
zetec lol writing paper on how the NSA and impala are ga... May 4 2006, 11:02 PM![]() ![]() |
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