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pebkac
post Apr 29 2006, 11:11 AM
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http://blog.wired.com/27BStroke6/

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The federal government intends to invoke the rarely used "State Secrets Privilege" -- the legal equivalent of a nuclear bomb -- in the Electronic Frontier Foundation's class action lawsuit against AT&T that alleges the telecom collaborated with the government's secret spying on American citizens.


Wow. Dubya's covering his own and his partners' asses.


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post May 3 2006, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ May 2 2006, 03:15 PM)
and zetec... even if it is 3000, we're still talking about an infinitesimal percentage of the population... it doesn't bother me at all, especially when there's a possibility to save thousands of lives in a thwarted attack. why does it bother you so much?

that is possibly the stupidest thing i've ever heard.

for one, there's a very good chance the NSA isn't there to stop terrorism -- homeland security is the one doing the taps through the FISA court for that.

two, i'm just talking about the FBI there. not Homeland Security or the NSA.

three, oh wow, 3000 isn't much. but we also don't know WHY they are being tapped or what they're suspected of, if anything. for all we know, the only people being tapped by the NSA are people that the government sees as "enemies", and i don't mean the blowie-shit-up kind. I'm talking "deepthroat" kind, or members of the ACLU or the EFF.

four, what happened to innocent until proven guilty?

seriously, thats some dumb fucking logic right there. we have a court system, it grants approval to almost everything. there's no reason for them NOT to use that. yes, domestic spying has been going on a long time, and there's a LEGAL way for them to do it. If they're having to circumvent those means, there's something else going on that we should probably look into.






btw, "States Secrets Privelege" is technically only common law, hopefully the judge in this case (characterized as a "free thinker" by some article i read earlier today and don't have offhand) will actually refuse the request by the DOJ to dismiss the case... which has never been done before, but is nonetheless his privelege.


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- pebkac   DOJ to drop bomb on EFF vs. AT&T   Apr 29 2006, 11:11 AM
- - Spectatrix   RE: DOJ to drop bomb on EFF vs. AT&T   Apr 29 2006, 12:26 PM
- - Psykopath   Anyone really suprised by this move? Hated my a m...   Apr 29 2006, 12:28 PM
- - Dogmeat   Privacy hasn't existed in this country since 1...   Apr 29 2006, 12:51 PM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Apr 29 2006, 12:51 PM)Privac...   Apr 29 2006, 01:07 PM
- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Apr 29 2006, 01:07 PM)Tha...   Apr 29 2006, 01:10 PM
- - zetec   this is fucking gay. seriously i think it's t...   Apr 29 2006, 03:54 PM
- - nickluto   legal nuclear bomb? so it instantly incinerates hu...   Apr 29 2006, 06:40 PM
- - nickluto   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Apr 29 2006, 12:28 PM)Anyo...   Apr 29 2006, 06:41 PM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (nickluto @ Apr 29 2006, 06:41 PM)Hated...   Apr 29 2006, 07:21 PM
- - Throwdown   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Apr 29 2006, 01:07 PM)Tha...   Apr 29 2006, 07:30 PM
- - Psykopath   QUOTE (nickluto @ Apr 29 2006, 07:41 PM)Hated...   Apr 29 2006, 07:38 PM
- - woody   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Apr 29 2006, 01:07 PM)Tha...   May 1 2006, 12:18 AM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (woody @ May 1 2006, 12:18 AM)are you u...   May 2 2006, 10:45 AM
- - impala454   wasn't this discussed a really long time ago? ...   May 2 2006, 10:54 AM
- - zetec   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 2 2006, 10:54 AM)wasn...   May 2 2006, 02:28 PM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 2 2006, 10:54 AM)it ma...   May 2 2006, 02:39 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 2 2006, 03:39 PM)No i...   May 2 2006, 03:15 PM
- - pebkac   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 2 2006, 03:15 PM)i jus...   May 2 2006, 03:56 PM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (pebkac @ May 2 2006, 03:56 PM)If they ...   May 2 2006, 07:04 PM
- - Renegadepeon   Hey, let's arrest communists while we're a...   May 2 2006, 07:35 PM
- - chook   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 2 2006, 03:15 PM)i jus...   May 2 2006, 10:33 PM
- - Divergent Reality   QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ May 2 2006, 08:35 PM)He...   May 2 2006, 11:48 PM
- - woody   domestic spying has been going on for along time, ...   May 2 2006, 11:50 PM
- - zetec   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 2 2006, 03:15 PM)and z...   May 3 2006, 12:31 AM
- - impala454   QUOTE (chook @ May 2 2006, 11:33 PM)Its a che...   May 3 2006, 08:10 AM
- - impala454   QUOTE (zetec @ May 3 2006, 01:31 AM)that is p...   May 3 2006, 08:10 AM
- - Psykopath   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 3 2006, 09:10 AM)zetec...   May 3 2006, 08:11 AM
- - impala454   QUOTE (Psykopath @ May 3 2006, 09:11 AM)yet y...   May 3 2006, 08:12 AM
- - Psykopath   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 3 2006, 09:12 AM)how s...   May 3 2006, 08:18 AM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Psykopath @ May 3 2006, 08:18 AM)WIRET...   May 3 2006, 09:27 AM
- - chook   AWESOME!   May 3 2006, 12:32 PM
- - JRockTTU   QUOTE (zetec @ May 3 2006, 12:31 AM)that is p...   May 3 2006, 02:24 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE (Psykopath @ May 3 2006, 09:18 AM)WIRET...   May 3 2006, 03:15 PM
- - Testm0nkey   trumped up charges steming from pseudo legal actio...   May 3 2006, 03:26 PM
- - Psykopath   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 3 2006, 04:15 PM)i kno...   May 3 2006, 03:28 PM
- - pebkac   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 3 2006, 03:15 PM)i kno...   May 3 2006, 03:57 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE (pebkac @ May 3 2006, 04:57 PM)Ok, so w...   May 3 2006, 03:59 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ May 3 2006, 04:26 PM)some...   May 3 2006, 04:00 PM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 3 2006, 03:59 PM)so do...   May 3 2006, 04:29 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 3 2006, 05:29 PM)1) I...   May 3 2006, 04:52 PM
- - zetec   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 3 2006, 04:52 PM)i rea...   May 3 2006, 05:29 PM
- - JRockTTU   QUOTE (zetec @ May 3 2006, 05:29 PM)And jessi...   May 3 2006, 09:32 PM
- - zetec   QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 3 2006, 09:32 PM)It was...   May 3 2006, 09:34 PM
- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 3 2006, 09:32 PM)It was...   May 3 2006, 09:34 PM
- - JRockTTU   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ May 3 2006, 09:34 PM)an...   May 3 2006, 09:39 PM
- - zetec   QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 3 2006, 09:39 PM)First ...   May 3 2006, 09:40 PM
- - pebkac   Just out of curiosity, what does zetec smoking mar...   May 3 2006, 10:33 PM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (pebkac @ May 3 2006, 10:33 PM)Just out...   May 3 2006, 10:37 PM
- - pebkac   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 3 2006, 10:37 PM)Appa...   May 3 2006, 10:45 PM
- - zetec   QUOTE (pebkac @ May 3 2006, 10:45 PM)Yeah, th...   May 3 2006, 11:20 PM
- - JRockTTU   QUOTE (zetec @ May 3 2006, 11:20 PM)this is t...   May 4 2006, 08:40 AM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 4 2006, 08:40 AM)but wh...   May 4 2006, 09:03 AM
- - woody   QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 4 2006, 08:40 AM)Everyb...   May 4 2006, 09:18 AM
- - impala454   QUOTE (zetec @ May 3 2006, 06:29 PM)no, we...   May 4 2006, 10:43 AM
- - impala454   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 4 2006, 10:03 AM)So.....   May 4 2006, 10:44 AM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 4 2006, 10:43 AM)ok......   May 4 2006, 11:13 AM
- - JRockTTU   QUOTE (woody @ May 4 2006, 09:18 AM)your post...   May 4 2006, 11:17 AM
- - pebkac   QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 4 2006, 08:40 AM)Everyb...   May 4 2006, 11:35 AM
- - JRockTTU   QUOTE (pebkac @ May 4 2006, 11:35 AM)You know...   May 4 2006, 11:44 AM
- - chook   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 3 2006, 04:29 PM)1) I...   May 4 2006, 01:08 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 4 2006, 12:13 PM)It p...   May 4 2006, 04:30 PM
- - zetec   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 4 2006, 04:30 PM)repur...   May 4 2006, 06:25 PM
- - zetec   lol writing paper on how the NSA and impala are ga...   May 4 2006, 11:02 PM


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