Apr 29 2006, 11:11 AM
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http://blog.wired.com/27BStroke6/
QUOTE The federal government intends to invoke the rarely used "State Secrets Privilege" -- the legal equivalent of a nuclear bomb -- in the Electronic Frontier Foundation's class action lawsuit against AT&T that alleges the telecom collaborated with the government's secret spying on American citizens. Wow. Dubya's covering his own and his partners' asses. -------------------- Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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May 2 2006, 03:56 PM
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![]() From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ May 2 2006, 03:15 PM) i just don't really get the point of "retroactive permission". asking for permission to do something you've already done is pretty pointless imo. and zetec... even if it is 3000, we're still talking about an infinitesimal percentage of the population... it doesn't bother me at all, especially when there's a possibility to save thousands of lives in a thwarted attack. why does it bother you so much? Well, it would prevent the FBI and NSA from wiretapping people without reason. If it's found that the wire was invalid, then it can't be used in court. Really, I don't see why the Bush admin would want to circumvent the court anyway. According to wikipedia: QUOTE It is also rare for FISA warrant requests to be turned down by the court. Through the end of 2004, 18,761 warrants were granted, while just five were rejected (many sources say four). Fewer than 200 requests had to be modified before being accepted, almost all of them in 2003 and 2004. If they can't get authorization from a court that almost always grants wiretap authorizations, something has to be wrong. Not to mention that there's no reason why they couldn't have gotten the authorization to do so at any time: QUOTE Due to the nature of the matters heard before it, FISC hearings may need to take place at any time of day or night, weekdays or weekends; thus, at least one judge must be "on call" at all times to hear evidence and decide whether or not to issue a warrant.
-------------------- Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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pebkac DOJ to drop bomb on EFF vs. AT&T Apr 29 2006, 11:11 AM
Spectatrix RE: DOJ to drop bomb on EFF vs. AT&T Apr 29 2006, 12:26 PM
Psykopath Anyone really suprised by this move?
Hated my a m... Apr 29 2006, 12:28 PM
Dogmeat Privacy hasn't existed in this country since 1... Apr 29 2006, 12:51 PM
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zetec QUOTE (impala454 @ May 2 2006, 10:54 AM)wasn... May 2 2006, 02:28 PM
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impala454 QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 2 2006, 03:39 PM)No i... May 2 2006, 03:15 PM
Spectatrix QUOTE (pebkac @ May 2 2006, 03:56 PM)If they ... May 2 2006, 07:04 PM
Renegadepeon Hey, let's arrest communists while we're a... May 2 2006, 07:35 PM
chook QUOTE (impala454 @ May 2 2006, 03:15 PM)i jus... May 2 2006, 10:33 PM
Divergent Reality QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ May 2 2006, 08:35 PM)He... May 2 2006, 11:48 PM
woody domestic spying has been going on for along time, ... May 2 2006, 11:50 PM
zetec QUOTE (impala454 @ May 2 2006, 03:15 PM)and z... May 3 2006, 12:31 AM
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Psykopath QUOTE (impala454 @ May 3 2006, 04:15 PM)i kno... May 3 2006, 03:28 PM
pebkac QUOTE (impala454 @ May 3 2006, 03:15 PM)i kno... May 3 2006, 03:57 PM
impala454 QUOTE (pebkac @ May 3 2006, 04:57 PM)Ok, so w... May 3 2006, 03:59 PM
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zetec QUOTE (impala454 @ May 3 2006, 04:52 PM)i rea... May 3 2006, 05:29 PM
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JRockTTU QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ May 3 2006, 09:34 PM)an... May 3 2006, 09:39 PM
zetec QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 3 2006, 09:39 PM)First ... May 3 2006, 09:40 PM
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zetec QUOTE (pebkac @ May 3 2006, 10:45 PM)Yeah, th... May 3 2006, 11:20 PM
JRockTTU QUOTE (zetec @ May 3 2006, 11:20 PM)this is t... May 4 2006, 08:40 AM
Spectatrix QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 4 2006, 08:40 AM)but wh... May 4 2006, 09:03 AM
woody QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 4 2006, 08:40 AM)Everyb... May 4 2006, 09:18 AM
impala454 QUOTE (zetec @ May 3 2006, 06:29 PM)no, we... May 4 2006, 10:43 AM
impala454 QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 4 2006, 10:03 AM)So..... May 4 2006, 10:44 AM
Spectatrix QUOTE (impala454 @ May 4 2006, 10:43 AM)ok...... May 4 2006, 11:13 AM
JRockTTU QUOTE (woody @ May 4 2006, 09:18 AM)your post... May 4 2006, 11:17 AM
pebkac QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 4 2006, 08:40 AM)Everyb... May 4 2006, 11:35 AM
JRockTTU QUOTE (pebkac @ May 4 2006, 11:35 AM)You know... May 4 2006, 11:44 AM
chook QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 3 2006, 04:29 PM)1) I... May 4 2006, 01:08 PM
impala454 QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 4 2006, 12:13 PM)It p... May 4 2006, 04:30 PM
zetec QUOTE (impala454 @ May 4 2006, 04:30 PM)repur... May 4 2006, 06:25 PM
zetec lol writing paper on how the NSA and impala are ga... May 4 2006, 11:02 PM![]() ![]() |
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