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post Apr 13 2006, 06:30 AM
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4895610.stm





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post Apr 14 2006, 01:24 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Apr 13 2006, 08:45 AM)
hmm... maybe i missed something but i didn't realize plants could live in a vacuum

Well, all plants really need to survive is carbon dioxide, sunlight, water, and nutrients, so if you built a greenhouse (an airtight container to keep the CO2 from floating off into space), it's possible. The plants they were talking about said that they "bring their own nutrients with them" whatever the hell that means.

It's interesting because plants both consume carbon dioxide and produce it (along with oxygen) so it could be self-sustaining (like the terrarium you built in elementary school). Why it is worth building a terrarium on the moon when you can just use a 2 liter coke bottle? You got me. So Europe can say they did something in space before America? It would be interesting to see how the plants grow with 1/6th the gravity, but thats pretty much it.

The only real problem i see is from the ambient temperature of the moon which fluxuates between -170 and 120C, which would obviously freeze/boil any water the plant would need to stay alive, so they would have to build a temperature controlled greenhouse for the plants (which you'd think would be difficult without manned mission) , or come up with a similar chemical gel with a higher boiling point and a lower freezing point that would allow the plant to photosynthesize.

In either case, I think they already have this part figured out. They wouldn't be investing millions of dollars to research astrophysics and develop technology if they didnt think the entire basis for the mission was possible.


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- zetec   Europe to plant first flower on the moon   Apr 13 2006, 06:30 AM
- - woody   fuckin stupid   Apr 13 2006, 06:47 AM
- - impala454   hmm... maybe i missed something but i didn't r...   Apr 13 2006, 08:45 AM
- - Jwilly   QUOTE (impala454 @ Apr 13 2006, 08:45 AM)hmm....   Apr 13 2006, 10:38 AM
- - zetec   QUOTE (Jwilly @ Apr 13 2006, 10:38 AM)flowers...   Apr 13 2006, 11:00 AM
- - Jessica   QUOTE (impala454 @ Apr 13 2006, 09:45 AM)hmm....   Apr 13 2006, 12:12 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 13 2006, 01:12 PM)I didn...   Apr 13 2006, 12:18 PM
- - Jessica   QUOTE (impala454 @ Apr 13 2006, 01:18 PM)ther...   Apr 13 2006, 12:48 PM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 13 2006, 12:48 PM)are yo...   Apr 13 2006, 12:51 PM
- - Jessica   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Apr 13 2006, 01:51 PM)No,...   Apr 13 2006, 12:51 PM
- - ratm   There is no oxygen in the moon's atmosphere bu...   Apr 13 2006, 12:53 PM
- - Jessica   I was thinking that since the earth's atmosphe...   Apr 13 2006, 12:57 PM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (ratm @ Apr 13 2006, 12:53 PM)So it wou...   Apr 13 2006, 12:57 PM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 13 2006, 12:57 PM)I was ...   Apr 13 2006, 01:01 PM
- - Jessica   so then is there air or not? I want impala to be w...   Apr 13 2006, 01:02 PM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 13 2006, 01:02 PM)so the...   Apr 13 2006, 01:04 PM
- - Jessica   so then there is. I shouldnt have second guessed m...   Apr 13 2006, 01:06 PM
- - Jyan   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Apr 13 2006, 01:04 PM)Wel...   Apr 13 2006, 01:06 PM
- - Seussninja   QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 13 2006, 01:02 PM)so the...   Apr 13 2006, 01:08 PM
- - Deviant Deity   So our moon is flatulent? Could it be from all th...   Apr 13 2006, 01:09 PM
- - ratm   I'm reading a book by Carl Sagan and it says t...   Apr 13 2006, 01:10 PM
- - chook   shit, get teh biomorphic fungi research from MOO2,...   Apr 13 2006, 02:09 PM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Jyan @ Apr 13 2006, 01:06 PM)And of co...   Apr 13 2006, 02:25 PM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (chook @ Apr 13 2006, 02:09 PM)shit, ge...   Apr 13 2006, 02:25 PM
- - Testm0nkey   'air' is a term we have given to what we b...   Apr 13 2006, 02:28 PM
- - Seussninja   QUOTE (Seussninja @ Apr 13 2006, 01:08 PM)The...   Apr 13 2006, 04:57 PM
- - woody   lets send prisoners to the moon, and remove their ...   Apr 14 2006, 12:01 AM
- - nickluto   QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 13 2006, 12:12 PM)I didn...   Apr 14 2006, 12:59 AM
- - Jessica   QUOTE (nickluto @ Apr 14 2006, 01:59 AM)oh......   Apr 14 2006, 01:01 AM
- - nickluto   QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 14 2006, 01:01 AM)hey...   Apr 14 2006, 01:06 AM
- - nickluto   but back on topic: basically, europe wants to go t...   Apr 14 2006, 01:12 AM
- - nickluto   QUOTE (impala454 @ Apr 13 2006, 08:45 AM)hmm....   Apr 14 2006, 01:24 AM
- - woody   You could plant something, but it would die. There...   Apr 14 2006, 01:36 AM
- - woody   QUOTE (nickluto @ Apr 14 2006, 01:06 AM)hey, ...   Apr 14 2006, 01:36 AM


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