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post Sep 3 2009, 12:09 PM
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Can someone explain to me in retard terms what we have now, what is being proposed, and what the consequences and benefits of each side are? The news web sites no longer report actual news.
Thanks in advance.


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post Sep 4 2009, 08:05 AM
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I'm not sure I agree with the part about everyone is able to get healthcare. I hear from my friend that when she was young, she couldn't go see the doctor cuz her parents job didn't cover health care, and they couldn't afford it either. I hear from my hospital friends that people who don't have health care go to emergency room for any old reason, they would then have to treat them, which is more costly than having a primary physician treat them. Also, it's not a returnable visit for aliments that require multiple visits to the doctors, this also increase the wait time and decrease the level of care for people who are there for actually emergencies.


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post Sep 4 2009, 08:22 AM
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QUOTE (Inferia @ Sep 4 2009, 09:05 AM) *
I'm not sure I agree with the part about everyone is able to get healthcare. I hear from my friend that when she was young, she couldn't go see the doctor cuz her parents job didn't cover health care, and they couldn't afford it either. I hear from my hospital friends that people who don't have health care go to emergency room for any old reason, they would then have to treat them, which is more costly than having a primary physician treat them. Also, it's not a returnable visit for aliments that require multiple visits to the doctors, this also increase the wait time and decrease the level of care for people who are there for actually emergencies.


But that's exactly the point, a person can go to an emergency room for healthcare. Your friend could go to the emergency room and would get treated. Also, we can quote "one-offs" everyday. I have a former co-worker who's wife worked as a nurse in Canada and said the emergency rooms there were just like they are here. She tells stories of waste in the system. It's a one-off though and I can't take it as a generalized truth for the entire system.

The flip side of that is that it fills emergency rooms to capacity and creates long lines for people without life threatening injuries.

What I don't understand is people who do not budget for health insurance. There are cheap plans out there that allow you to visit the doctor and get basic tests done. It may not be the greatest, but I had it for a year and paid $40/month for it and it worked for me.

Just because something is expensive doesn't make it wrong. Someone has to pay for new drugs to be developed, doctors to have their malpractice insurance, etc. and personally, I'd rather pay for it in my premiums than have more of my income eroded by taxes.


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- cmac   Health Care   Sep 3 2009, 12:09 PM
- - woody   www.google.com   Sep 3 2009, 12:56 PM
- - Hartmann   QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 3 2009, 01:09 PM) Can s...   Sep 3 2009, 01:37 PM
- - THECHICKEN   lol someone that feels the same way as i do. I ...   Sep 3 2009, 01:51 PM
- - impala454   Right now we have privatized healthcare. I.e. pri...   Sep 3 2009, 04:33 PM
- - FORSAKENR320   i agree with impala, thats the gist of what i unde...   Sep 3 2009, 05:02 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Sep 3 2009, 06:02 P...   Sep 3 2009, 08:05 PM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Sep 3 2009, 09:05 PM) ...   Sep 3 2009, 09:18 PM
- - cmac   cool. thanks dude.   Sep 3 2009, 06:28 PM
- - cmac   i know i pay roughly $700 a month for health ...   Sep 3 2009, 06:38 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 3 2009, 07:38 PM) i kno...   Sep 3 2009, 08:22 PM
- - chook   Problem is that the same coverage for health care ...   Sep 3 2009, 09:15 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (chook @ Sep 3 2009, 10:15 PM) Prob...   Sep 3 2009, 09:42 PM
- - Hartmann   My problem is that the wording is off on both side...   Sep 4 2009, 07:02 AM
- - Inferia   I'm not sure I agree with the part about every...   Sep 4 2009, 08:05 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Inferia @ Sep 4 2009, 09:05 AM) I...   Sep 4 2009, 08:22 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Inferia @ Sep 4 2009, 09:05 AM) I...   Sep 4 2009, 08:43 AM
- - Inferia   Well, it's not very effective to go to the eme...   Sep 4 2009, 08:43 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Inferia @ Sep 4 2009, 09:43 AM) We...   Sep 4 2009, 09:02 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Inferia @ Sep 4 2009, 09:43 AM) We...   Sep 4 2009, 09:20 AM
- - cmac   QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 3 2009, 07:22 PM) ...   Sep 4 2009, 08:46 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 4 2009, 09:46 AM) two r...   Sep 4 2009, 09:22 AM
- - Spectatrix   I read an interesting article the other day on San...   Sep 4 2009, 09:29 AM
- - cmac   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Sep 4 2009, 08:29 AM)...   Sep 4 2009, 09:35 AM
- - THECHICKEN   Here is my question.... what constitutional provis...   Sep 4 2009, 11:32 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Sep 4 2009, 12:32 PM)...   Sep 4 2009, 11:39 AM
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|- - impala454   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 4 2009, 12:39 PM) I...   Sep 4 2009, 02:51 PM
- - Hartmann   The NYTimes has an article today about one of the ...   Sep 4 2009, 01:29 PM


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