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cmac
post Sep 3 2009, 12:09 PM
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Can someone explain to me in retard terms what we have now, what is being proposed, and what the consequences and benefits of each side are? The news web sites no longer report actual news.
Thanks in advance.


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Hartmann
post Sep 4 2009, 07:02 AM
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My problem is that the wording is off on both sides. This isn't a fight for "healthcare for everyone", because everyone already has the ability to get healthcare, it's a fight for "insurance for everyone". The government option isn't very appealing to me because on its face, it isn't competitive, it's monopolistic. How do you compete with someone who doesn't have to make a profit? There is also nothing keeping employers from making a mass exodus away from their current healthcare provider and turning their employees over to the government. Sure, they'll save money on health insurance, but the federal government won't be able to sustain it and will eventually raise taxes.

Everyone in favor of the government option seems to tout Medicare, leaving out the fact that Medicare is a hybrid system and barely works as it is. And, let's not forget that one proposed way to pay for the government option is to cut some of the Medicare spending. rolleyes.gif

I had an open mind with the Obama administration coming in to office, but I think the left and right are being pushed farther and farther away from each other, when in reality our fundamentals are the same, it's just the method of carrying out those fundamentals that are different.


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- cmac   Health Care   Sep 3 2009, 12:09 PM
- - woody   www.google.com   Sep 3 2009, 12:56 PM
- - Hartmann   QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 3 2009, 01:09 PM) Can s...   Sep 3 2009, 01:37 PM
- - THECHICKEN   lol someone that feels the same way as i do. I ...   Sep 3 2009, 01:51 PM
- - impala454   Right now we have privatized healthcare. I.e. pri...   Sep 3 2009, 04:33 PM
- - FORSAKENR320   i agree with impala, thats the gist of what i unde...   Sep 3 2009, 05:02 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Sep 3 2009, 06:02 P...   Sep 3 2009, 08:05 PM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Sep 3 2009, 09:05 PM) ...   Sep 3 2009, 09:18 PM
- - cmac   cool. thanks dude.   Sep 3 2009, 06:28 PM
- - cmac   i know i pay roughly $700 a month for health ...   Sep 3 2009, 06:38 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 3 2009, 07:38 PM) i kno...   Sep 3 2009, 08:22 PM
- - chook   Problem is that the same coverage for health care ...   Sep 3 2009, 09:15 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (chook @ Sep 3 2009, 10:15 PM) Prob...   Sep 3 2009, 09:42 PM
- - Hartmann   My problem is that the wording is off on both side...   Sep 4 2009, 07:02 AM
- - Inferia   I'm not sure I agree with the part about every...   Sep 4 2009, 08:05 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Inferia @ Sep 4 2009, 09:05 AM) I...   Sep 4 2009, 08:22 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Inferia @ Sep 4 2009, 09:05 AM) I...   Sep 4 2009, 08:43 AM
- - Inferia   Well, it's not very effective to go to the eme...   Sep 4 2009, 08:43 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Inferia @ Sep 4 2009, 09:43 AM) We...   Sep 4 2009, 09:02 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Inferia @ Sep 4 2009, 09:43 AM) We...   Sep 4 2009, 09:20 AM
- - cmac   QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 3 2009, 07:22 PM) ...   Sep 4 2009, 08:46 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 4 2009, 09:46 AM) two r...   Sep 4 2009, 09:22 AM
- - Spectatrix   I read an interesting article the other day on San...   Sep 4 2009, 09:29 AM
- - cmac   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Sep 4 2009, 08:29 AM)...   Sep 4 2009, 09:35 AM
- - THECHICKEN   Here is my question.... what constitutional provis...   Sep 4 2009, 11:32 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Sep 4 2009, 12:32 PM)...   Sep 4 2009, 11:39 AM
|- - THECHICKEN   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 4 2009, 12:39 PM) I...   Sep 4 2009, 11:45 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 4 2009, 12:39 PM) I...   Sep 4 2009, 02:51 PM
- - Hartmann   The NYTimes has an article today about one of the ...   Sep 4 2009, 01:29 PM


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