apocalypse/crisis/survival/preparation Options

[FORSAKENR320]

i am curious, how many of you share some level of paranoia about anything? doesn't matter what it might be that you fear, but what steps have you taken to protect yourself in the event of your fear happening? i'm not talking about zombies, or something laughable, i mean something real. tornado plan? those near the south, hurricanes, floods, etc?


(i ask because i saw a news article on yahoo, that was talking about how people are "preparing" more, as a whole, globally)

[jonathan83]

i don't have anything stocked up really, besides just normal stuff in the cabinets and fridge.

my situation, however, is more real than most people, i believe. since im in korea, i do think about what i would do if we were attacked.

for one, there's no reason to stock up on water and food, because the plan for survival is just to get the hell out. so here we go...

first of all, if it's a nuke, then that's that. i'm doomed. but if they come across the border, then my plan is to first go as far south as possible. south korea is a really small country, but seoul is only like 30 min away from the border. however, most of the troops are in the northern part, so i just need time to flee to the south to be safe for at least a few days maybe. obviously it'd be a panic, so no public transportation. i've thought about getting a scooter/motorcycle or something to have just in case, but i might just steal/buy one if it came down to it.
once i'm down there, i gotta leave. japan's closest, but that's also not safe, since they're also north korea's enemy. therefore, i'm going to china.
planes are outta the question, so by boat. i'm taking a ferry to china next month actually, so maybe illl learn something then. however, any boat of any kind going south or west, i'll take.

other than that, i know where my passport is, and i'd just take that and withdraw as much cash as possible, then gtho. i've got my american bank account too with money just in case.

[FORSAKENR320]

i don't have anything stocked up really, besides just normal stuff in the cabinets and fridge.

my situation, however, is more real than most people, i believe. since im in korea, i do think about what i would do if we were attacked.

for one, there's no reason to stock up on water and food, because the plan for survival is just to get the hell out. so here we go...

first of all, if it's a nuke, then that's that. i'm doomed. but if they come across the border, then my plan is to first go as far south as possible. south korea is a really small country, but seoul is only like 30 min away from the border. however, most of the troops are in the northern part, so i just need time to flee to the south to be safe for at least a few days maybe. obviously it'd be a panic, so no public transportation. i've thought about getting a scooter/motorcycle or something to have just in case, but i might just steal/buy one if it came down to it.
once i'm down there, i gotta leave. japan's closest, but that's also not safe, since they're also north korea's enemy. therefore, i'm going to china.
planes are outta the question, so by boat. i'm taking a ferry to china next month actually, so maybe illl learn something then. however, any boat of any kind going south or west, i'll take.

other than that, i know where my passport is, and i'd just take that and withdraw as much cash as possible, then gtho. i've got my american bank account too with money just in case.

to me, that sounds way to organized of a panic. (i know your plan is purposely broad spectrum, like an over all goal) but i think the human element has been completely left out of this. there will be the looters, the murderers, the panic, the stealing, all of that. not everyone will see this as a mad dash for the border to get away, alot of people will refuse to leave in the first place, and alot will think they can take advantage of the situation. how will you protect yourself on your trip south? you have no food, no weapons, nothing to trade or offer to recieve passage. i'm not attacking you, but "go south" isn't much preparation to make your trip easier. basically, what could you do NOW, that could give you an advantage over everyone else around you later?

if i were in your situation, i'd have a backpack with a hydration bladder, with about a weeks supply of those high calorie survival bars for food. right now, that seems the best thing for you, so that you wouldn't have to stop as often to eat or rest as those around you. you'll be on foot/bike the majority of the way, so you'll need your strength. i'd stay off the main roads as much as possible, to reduce your chances of a hostile incident happening. since you would want to stay as light as possible to keep your speed up, i'd suggest getting a 6'x8" waterproof tarp. if my understanding is correct, it's supposet to be fairly wet where you are? that tarp, with a bit of 1/8" thick nylon rope will suffice for shelter. the tarp is also useful for several other things, such as several types of water collection. usually, i always packed a shower curtain when i went camping. it does all the same things, but is smaller and lighter. you'll need a flashlight (preferably a crank one that has a cellphone charger on it) a multitool, and a mosquito-net hat covering. (this i think would be your most useful item, if you can't get a full periods rest due to the bugs pestering you, your speed will slow drastically)

there is more, but i think i'm already getting carried away. heh

[jonathan83]

to me, that sounds way to organized of a panic. (i know your plan is purposely broad spectrum, like an over all goal) but i think the human element has been completely left out of this. there will be the looters, the murderers, the panic, the stealing, all of that. not everyone will see this as a mad dash for the border to get away, alot of people will refuse to leave in the first place, and alot will think they can take advantage of the situation. how will you protect yourself on your trip south? you have no food, no weapons, nothing to trade or offer to recieve passage. i'm not attacking you, but "go south" isn't much preparation to make your trip easier. basically, what could you do NOW, that could give you an advantage over everyone else around you later?

hmm well, the vast majority of koreans believe nothing will happen anyway, so i think there would be a high percentage that won't even try to flee.
but even if they do, there are tons of stores everywhere. it's not like the states where you have to drive to walmart. just within a 1 minute walking distanc to my place, there's about 10 different grocery stores and convenient stores.
but honestly, i don't see myself needing that much stuff because heading south doesn't mean traveling for a week really. it only takes about 6 hours from one end of the country to the other (by car).
i dont have to go all the way south, but just far enough to get out of seoul, where all the major fighing would be.

officially, the us embassy is supposed to evacuate all american citizens in the case of something like this happening. i'm signed up to their lists and they talk about it often. but i'm not counting on that, in case of a panic.