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Hartmann
post Jun 2 2009, 07:17 AM
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I just finished "In Defense of Food" by Michael Pollan. He basically rips apart the idea of "nutrionism" pointing out that things like omega-3 pills are nowhere close to as good for you as just eating fish. How beta-carotene pills that were touted to prevent cancer actually cause it.

His whole point is that if we eat food we should eat mostly plants and not too much. He cites the French, the Italians, the Japanese and how their diets are completely different from each other but they're still healthier than us.


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impala454
post Jun 5 2009, 09:20 AM
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I can agree with the premise you mention for the book. I often read about a "study" that was done which I think draws silly conclusions. I.e. something like: "A study at such&such school of 500 people found that if they ate X food for 30 days then Y happened. This means X food is responsible for Y." Well to me (who questions everything (as if yall didn't know that tongue.gif)), I have to wonder if Y happened more because they were eating less of what they previously ate, or if it was some commonality as far as the region the food was served in, the way the food was prepared, etc, etc.

The scientific studies that I like to see are stuff like "in a lab, we did this to food X and found that preparing it a certain way did Y to the food". Without them drawing some fantastical conclusion about the food, just telling you the raw results of the study. Like in my Men's Health mag the other day, I read that some study found that if you fry an egg vs a lower heat method of cooking, it releases some chemical (forget the name) that promotes reduction of bad cholesterol. They simply told you their results, that the higher heat cooking brought out this chemical. They did not claim "eating fried eggs helps lower cholesterol." It's basically like, tell me what you did, show me the result, and I'll draw my own conclusions thank you.
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- Hartmann   Eating Healthy   Jun 2 2009, 07:17 AM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jun 2 2009, 08:17 AM) I...   Jun 2 2009, 09:59 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jun 2 2009, 10:59 AM)...   Jun 2 2009, 01:54 PM
- - Spectatrix   Currently reading "The Atheist's Way...   Jun 2 2009, 10:07 AM
- - impala454   Nice review Christine... Good to see people writi...   Jun 2 2009, 10:27 AM
- - Spectatrix   I think most nutritional fads are unintentionally ...   Jun 2 2009, 02:00 PM
- - impala454   I don't really understand the perceived benefi...   Jun 2 2009, 02:36 PM
- - Spectatrix   I think the main downside to processed foods is al...   Jun 2 2009, 03:56 PM
- - impala454   Eh I don't see how sitting on a shelf in a can...   Jun 2 2009, 04:42 PM
- - Spectatrix   Like I said, the main "danger" of proces...   Jun 2 2009, 06:05 PM
- - impala454   Well like I said, you look at at the label. It ju...   Jun 2 2009, 11:11 PM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 3 2009, 12:11 AM) ...   Jun 3 2009, 06:50 AM
- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jun 2 2009, 04:56 PM)...   Jun 3 2009, 06:39 AM
- - impala454   So explain to me exactly how a can of carrots with...   Jun 3 2009, 08:00 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 3 2009, 09:00 AM) ...   Jun 3 2009, 08:19 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jun 3 2009, 09:19 AM) H...   Jun 3 2009, 10:05 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 3 2009, 11:05 AM) ...   Jun 3 2009, 10:17 AM
|- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jun 3 2009, 11:17 AM) A...   Jun 3 2009, 10:20 AM
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|- - impala454   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jun 3 2009, 11:17 AM) E...   Jun 3 2009, 12:28 PM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 3 2009, 01:28 PM) ...   Jun 3 2009, 01:01 PM
||- - impala454   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jun 3 2009, 02:01 PM) Y...   Jun 3 2009, 03:56 PM
||- - Hartmann   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 3 2009, 04:56 PM) ...   Jun 4 2009, 06:33 AM
||- - impala454   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jun 4 2009, 07:33 AM) B...   Jun 4 2009, 07:43 AM
||- - Hartmann   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 4 2009, 08:43 AM) ...   Jun 4 2009, 08:16 AM
||- - impala454   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jun 4 2009, 09:16 AM) N...   Jun 4 2009, 09:09 AM
||- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 4 2009, 10:09 AM) ...   Jun 4 2009, 09:32 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 3 2009, 01:28 PM) ...   Jun 3 2009, 01:10 PM
- - Spectatrix   Dude, we're mostly agreeing with you. If you ...   Jun 3 2009, 10:17 AM
- - Hartmann   Also, last night I went to the grocery store to fi...   Jun 4 2009, 06:38 AM
- - impala454   That'd be cool... I am just curious to see som...   Jun 4 2009, 10:07 PM
- - Spectatrix   Didn't see your reply until this morning. I...   Jun 5 2009, 08:32 AM
- - impala454   I can agree with the premise you mention for the b...   Jun 5 2009, 09:20 AM
- - impala454   Oh and also, I'm curious, do you take your own...   Jun 5 2009, 09:24 AM
- - Spectatrix   Yeah, I have a monitor at home, though I don't...   Jun 5 2009, 10:40 AM
- - Spectatrix   Little late on this, sorry. Here's a quote fr...   Jun 6 2009, 06:56 PM
- - impala454   I'm sure the study goes into the detail I...   Jun 6 2009, 09:10 PM
- - Spectatrix   I completely agree. Complex packaged foods like t...   Jun 6 2009, 09:54 PM


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