Impala/Oasis BitchFest 2009, Someone call the waahbulance! Options

[Oasis]

BTW don't buy this game, but especially don't buy the expansion pack. It's a fucking joke.

You wanna know why you never get laid? You're a whiny bitch. Seriously. We get you don't like the fucking game. Give it a rest already, nancy boy

[Dogmeat]

You wanna know why you never get laid? You're a whiny bitch. Seriously. We get you don't like the fucking game. Give it a rest already, nancy boy

I'm going to drive to texas and kill you.

[impala454]

I appreciate how compromising you're being but I can't concede that generally foreign cars are better. For the same reasons you gave to the opposite. I knew a lot of people at my last two jobs who had various foreign cars (Nissan Altima, Audi A4, Nissan Frontier to be exact) who had non-stop problems with the things. The Audi guy was getting his transmission worked on all the time, the Altima had CV joint and alternator issues, the Frontier had 4WD issues. Now, as I mentioned before I think maintenance has a lot to do with it. I know the Audi guy & Altima guy did not do a good job of maintinence. On the flip side of that, my family has owned nothing but GM vehicles my entire life, and gone above and beyond as far as maintinence goes. Every car we've had, we've kept for at least 10 years, and never had any major issues. We had a 15 year old Chevy Lumina with 175,000 miles on it that the only part that was ever replaced was shocks, struts, and alternator (all things you'll replace on any car if you keep it long enough). But I've seen some Luminas the same age that were being held together with duct tape. Now this doesn't make me believe that domestic cars are better. It just doesn't make me believe the hype that foreign cars are some large step above domestic in terms of quality. Or any step up at all really.

As far as Consumer Reports goes, you may accuse me of attacking your source, but I've never been a big fan of them. But specifically regarding what you posted (of course without being able to click the links, as I'm not a subscriber), look at what they're comparing. Do you think it makes sense to compare a Corvette to a Minivan to a 3/4 ton pickup? What exactly is it that makes a Toyota Sienna score 1 point higher than a Corvette??

I'm just curious Christine, other than a list of Consumer Reports opinions or your own personal experiences, is there something else that helps you arrive at your conclusion that foreign > domestic? It just seems to me more of a brand loyalty kind of thing, which I'm sure you'd hate me saying that, but I think we all do it a bit. If someone asks me for a TV recommendation, I usually tell them Samsung. They're a great TV, but so are a few other brands. A Sony or Toshiba might be just as good, but given those three brands I'd choose the Samsung. I've owned a lot of their displays so that's what I go with. People on AVS will chat 'til their blue in the face trying to convince each other that "their" brand is 0.05% better than someone else's. It all just seems silly to me.

I think if you do your research on the specific vehicle you want, buy it brand new, and take good care of it, it doesn't really matter what brand is stamped into the side or what soil it was manufactured on.