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dauss
post Mar 22 2009, 02:52 PM
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So, I'm trying to think of an example that would be close to the situation that AIG is facing to get a gauge on this particular situation.

Let's pretend that Brinker International Restaurants(Chili's, Maggiano's, On the Border, and Romano's Macaroni Grill) got a bailout with your tax dollars because they're in financial trouble. So, let's also pretend that one of their concepts was the main cause for all their profit loss, On the Border in this hypothetical case. So, On the Border has such massive losses that it causes Brinker to have to report a loss for the fiscal year.

Now, let's just say that you work for Chili's and don't really have any connection to On the Border because that's a different division. You've been doing your job and Chili's, Romano's, and Maggiano's not only made budget, but actually had profit for the last year. Should you get bonus, along with the guys from Romano's and Maggiano's?


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post Mar 23 2009, 10:07 AM
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There are three questions here.

1. Should the government bailout not have included the clauses that allowed for bonuses?
2. Is AIG in some way obligated to run their business differently simply because they received government money?
3. Is the end-around that the government is pulling a bad idea or even legal?

I seem to think that the problem starts at the top. Fine, Congress, you want to bail them out, do it but don't put clauses in there simply because they were one of the largest contributors to the campaign. Secondly, AIG is a business and they do not have an obligation to the taxpayers to not provide bonuses. Now, out of the goodness of their hearts, they could have chosen a different path.

The taxing of the bonuses at 90% is a shady move in my opinion and borders on unconstitutional. There was a President not too long ago that tried to change tax rates on certain people and he was forced to resign, claiming he wasn't a crook.

I just can't believe so many people are getting so worked up about all of this. The $$$ that was given out as bonuses pales in comparison to what has been proposed as the stimulus package. We're on the verge of bankruptcy and people are worried about pennies rather than the $500 bills falling out of the sky.

The publisher of Forbes was doing an interview this morning and made an obvious comment that no one else had mentioned, why did the government not do these negotiations behind closed doors and try to solve this problem without involving American citizens. People are going to these AIG employee's homes and protesting. Give me a break.


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- dauss   Bonuses for bailed out companies   Mar 22 2009, 02:52 PM
- - pysex   that theory would work fine except for the bonuses...   Mar 22 2009, 08:33 PM
- - FORSAKENR320   bottom line to me is that the bailout money is to ...   Mar 22 2009, 09:56 PM
- - chook   At raytheon, if the space systems, or optics do po...   Mar 22 2009, 11:22 PM
- - impala454   At Jacobs our raises in the space sector were unaf...   Mar 23 2009, 09:35 AM
- - Hartmann   There are three questions here. 1. Should the gov...   Mar 23 2009, 10:07 AM
- - THECHICKEN   Its like handing candy to a little kid..... then ...   Mar 24 2009, 12:30 AM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Mar 24 2009, 01:30 AM...   Mar 24 2009, 05:03 PM
- - Billy   I think the government should use tax money to giv...   Mar 24 2009, 10:35 AM
- - impala454   Except that paying you $10 million isn't ...   Mar 24 2009, 11:02 AM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 24 2009, 12:02 PM)...   Mar 24 2009, 05:17 PM
||- - impala454   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Mar 24 2009, 06:17 ...   Mar 25 2009, 09:36 AM
|- - chook   QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 24 2009, 12:02 PM)...   Mar 24 2009, 07:20 PM
||- - impala454   QUOTE (chook @ Mar 24 2009, 08:20 PM) If ...   Mar 25 2009, 09:33 AM
|- - Billy   QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 24 2009, 12:02 PM)...   Mar 24 2009, 08:15 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Billy @ Mar 24 2009, 09:15 PM) I d...   Mar 25 2009, 09:29 AM
|- - Billy   QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 25 2009, 10:29 AM)...   Mar 25 2009, 04:57 PM
- - pysex   you do know that China is buying up our debt right...   Mar 24 2009, 09:14 PM
|- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (pysex @ Mar 24 2009, 09:14 PM) you...   Mar 24 2009, 09:24 PM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Mar 24 2009, 10:24 PM) Y...   Mar 24 2009, 11:24 PM
- - Psykopath   Down with civilization!   Mar 25 2009, 12:14 AM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Mar 25 2009, 01:14 AM)...   Mar 25 2009, 12:24 AM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Mar 25 2009, 01:24 ...   Mar 25 2009, 01:00 AM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Mar 25 2009, 02:00 AM)...   Mar 25 2009, 02:41 AM
- - Hartmann   I still do not think we are getting the "tran...   Mar 25 2009, 07:01 AM
- - woody   keep in mind these are not bonuses, this is a way ...   Mar 25 2009, 08:06 AM
- - impala454   haha "computer scientist"... mmmk so as...   Mar 26 2009, 12:49 AM
- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE Which people's bad decisions? How on ear...   Mar 26 2009, 01:13 AM
- - impala454   but you don't know for a fact that the people ...   Mar 26 2009, 11:25 AM
- - woody   http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story...he_bi...   Mar 26 2009, 11:37 AM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (woody @ Mar 26 2009, 12:37 PM) htt...   Mar 26 2009, 01:23 PM
- - impala454   yeah lemme go read politics from the rolling stone...   Mar 26 2009, 03:08 PM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 26 2009, 04:08 PM)...   Mar 26 2009, 04:33 PM
- - Billy   Impala, you idiot. EVERYONE got a bonus. Not jus...   Mar 26 2009, 05:49 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Billy @ Mar 26 2009, 06:49 PM) Imp...   Mar 27 2009, 09:52 AM
|- - Billy   QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 27 2009, 10:52 AM)...   Mar 27 2009, 03:57 PM
|- - dauss   QUOTE (Billy @ Mar 27 2009, 03:57 PM) Thi...   Mar 27 2009, 05:00 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (dauss @ Mar 27 2009, 06:00 PM) Uhm...   Mar 27 2009, 10:19 PM
- - FORSAKENR320   i read somewhere that if obama decided to pay each...   Mar 26 2009, 06:28 PM
|- - chook   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Mar 26 2009, 06:28 ...   Mar 26 2009, 06:45 PM
||- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (chook @ Mar 26 2009, 07:45 PM) It ...   Mar 26 2009, 07:19 PM
||- - pysex   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Mar 26 2009, 08:19 ...   Mar 27 2009, 10:03 AM
|- - dauss   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Mar 26 2009, 06:28 ...   Mar 27 2009, 07:22 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Mar 26 2009, 07:28 ...   Mar 27 2009, 09:54 AM
- - woody   QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 26 2009, 03:08 PM)...   Mar 26 2009, 08:57 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (woody @ Mar 26 2009, 09:57 PM) oh ...   Mar 27 2009, 09:52 AM
- - woody   bail out student loans, then i'll vote for you...   Mar 27 2009, 10:34 AM
- - dauss   Here's the resignation letter from one of the ...   Mar 27 2009, 03:33 PM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (dauss @ Mar 27 2009, 03:33 PM) Her...   Mar 28 2009, 02:12 PM
- - Billy   Well, I guess I shouldn't be opposed to people...   Mar 27 2009, 07:36 PM
|- - dauss   QUOTE (Billy @ Mar 27 2009, 07:36 PM) And...   Mar 27 2009, 08:46 PM
- - chook   The problem is that noone is going to say we were ...   Mar 29 2009, 02:42 PM


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