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Hartmann
post Nov 10 2008, 10:30 AM
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I am guessing that given the more left leaning of this board, the answers are fairly obvious but I was wondering where people stood on the ideas of self-reliance, government intervention, and work.

My firm belief is that people as a whole must be self-reliant, that government should stay out unless it is needed, and hard work is necessary to succeed.

Where do you stand?

I listen to my brothers talk about what they want to do and I'm amazed at their goals. Nothing to do with hard work or being self-reliant but more along the lines of American Idol and "famous". It is one thing to dream of being a baseball player when you're young but I get this impression that we are becoming more and more focused on the easy route rather than the tough but rewarding one.


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chook
post Nov 12 2008, 03:06 PM
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I taught middle school as a sub Hutch in Lubbock and classes were never bigger than 22. My public school had small classes, mabye 20 max in Math.

just my 2 cents.


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- Hartmann   Where do you stand   Nov 10 2008, 10:30 AM
- - Inferia   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Nov 10 2008, 11:30 AM) ...   Nov 10 2008, 10:43 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Inferia @ Nov 10 2008, 10:43 AM) I...   Nov 10 2008, 11:25 AM
|- - Inferia   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Nov 10 2008, 12:25 PM) ...   Nov 10 2008, 11:59 AM
- - Spectatrix   He's concerned about people getting caught up ...   Nov 10 2008, 10:51 AM
|- - Inferia   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Nov 10 2008, 11:51 AM...   Nov 10 2008, 11:07 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Inferia @ Nov 10 2008, 11:07 AM) I...   Nov 10 2008, 11:32 AM
- - Watchman   IMO people should rely on themselves and the gover...   Nov 10 2008, 11:35 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Watchman @ Nov 10 2008, 11:35 AM) ...   Nov 10 2008, 11:50 AM
|- - Inferia   QUOTE (Watchman @ Nov 10 2008, 12:35 PM) ...   Nov 10 2008, 12:02 PM
|- - chook   QUOTE (Watchman @ Nov 10 2008, 12:35 PM) ...   Nov 10 2008, 03:16 PM
|- - Watchman   QUOTE (chook @ Nov 10 2008, 03:16 PM) But...   Nov 10 2008, 04:06 PM
|- - chook   QUOTE (Watchman @ Nov 10 2008, 04:06 PM) ...   Nov 10 2008, 05:17 PM
- - Dogmeat   The government needs to stay the fuck out of the f...   Nov 10 2008, 11:56 AM
- - Watchman   I'm not advocating being completely self-relia...   Nov 10 2008, 12:08 PM
|- - Inferia   QUOTE (Watchman @ Nov 10 2008, 01:08 PM) ...   Nov 10 2008, 12:17 PM
|- - Watchman   QUOTE (Inferia @ Nov 10 2008, 12:17 PM) W...   Nov 10 2008, 12:27 PM
|- - Inferia   QUOTE (Watchman @ Nov 10 2008, 01:27 PM) ...   Nov 10 2008, 12:32 PM
|- - Watchman   QUOTE (Inferia @ Nov 10 2008, 12:32 PM) I...   Nov 10 2008, 12:36 PM
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|- - Watchman   QUOTE (Inferia @ Nov 10 2008, 12:41 PM) H...   Nov 10 2008, 12:47 PM
|- - Billy   QUOTE (Watchman @ Nov 10 2008, 12:47 PM) ...   Nov 10 2008, 12:51 PM
||- - Watchman   QUOTE (Billy @ Nov 10 2008, 12:51 PM) And...   Nov 10 2008, 12:59 PM
||- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Billy @ Nov 10 2008, 12:51 PM) And...   Nov 10 2008, 01:06 PM
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||- - The Fanatic   QUOTE (Billy @ Nov 10 2008, 12:51 PM) So ...   Nov 11 2008, 11:44 PM
||- - James   QUOTE (Billy @ Nov 10 2008, 12:51 PM) So ...   Nov 12 2008, 06:44 AM
||- - Hartmann   QUOTE (James @ Nov 12 2008, 06:44 AM) Mis...   Nov 12 2008, 09:58 AM
||- - Billy   QUOTE (James @ Nov 12 2008, 06:44 AM) Mis...   Nov 12 2008, 12:04 PM
||- - Mommy   QUOTE (Billy @ Nov 12 2008, 01:04 PM) Tho...   Nov 12 2008, 06:08 PM
||- - Billy   QUOTE (Mommy @ Nov 12 2008, 06:08 PM) In ...   Nov 12 2008, 06:41 PM
|- - Inferia   QUOTE (Watchman @ Nov 10 2008, 01:47 PM) ...   Nov 10 2008, 12:53 PM
|- - James   QUOTE (Watchman @ Nov 10 2008, 12:47 PM) ...   Nov 10 2008, 05:05 PM
- - Billy   You guys advocating Government stay out of people...   Nov 10 2008, 12:20 PM
|- - Watchman   QUOTE (Billy @ Nov 10 2008, 12:20 PM) You...   Nov 10 2008, 12:31 PM
|- - Billy   QUOTE (Watchman @ Nov 10 2008, 12:31 PM) ...   Nov 10 2008, 12:32 PM
- - chook   Pro Life, Anti Death Penalty, Pro Guns. No opinio...   Nov 10 2008, 12:52 PM
- - Hartmann   I should clarify, I was talking about federal gove...   Nov 10 2008, 12:53 PM
- - Hartmann   As for me, I'm for state's rights and self...   Nov 10 2008, 01:01 PM
- - Mommy   When I was in elementary school, I was taught unde...   Nov 10 2008, 08:47 PM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Mommy @ Nov 10 2008, 08:47 PM) Whe...   Nov 10 2008, 09:59 PM
|- - James   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Nov 10 2008, 09:59 ...   Nov 11 2008, 12:20 AM
||- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (James @ Nov 11 2008, 12:20 AM) Wha...   Nov 11 2008, 03:58 AM
|- - Mommy   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Nov 10 2008, 10:59 ...   Nov 11 2008, 09:13 AM
- - chook   I'd say I understand how the universe works pr...   Nov 11 2008, 01:58 AM
- - Spectatrix   A Beka is utter crap. It's worksheet-based ro...   Nov 11 2008, 09:54 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Nov 11 2008, 09:54 AM...   Nov 11 2008, 09:59 AM
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|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Nov 11 2008, 10:05 AM...   Nov 11 2008, 10:19 AM
- - Inferia   what the heck are you guys talking about? Is this ...   Nov 11 2008, 10:24 AM
|- - Mommy   QUOTE (Inferia @ Nov 11 2008, 11:24 AM) w...   Nov 11 2008, 10:53 AM
|- - Inferia   QUOTE (Mommy @ Nov 11 2008, 11:53 AM) Our...   Nov 11 2008, 11:07 AM
- - chook   I went to Catholic School and was taught about evo...   Nov 11 2008, 11:05 AM
- - Mommy   AP classes are great. My school had no AP classes....   Nov 11 2008, 01:10 PM
- - Mommy   Where did you go to high school, btw, Inferia? My...   Nov 11 2008, 01:16 PM
- - Inferia   I went to high school in Michigan, mid-Michigan. ...   Nov 11 2008, 01:33 PM
- - Mommy   sucks that inner city kids don't get the same ...   Nov 11 2008, 01:44 PM
|- - Inferia   QUOTE (Mommy @ Nov 11 2008, 02:44 PM) suc...   Nov 11 2008, 01:47 PM
|- - Mommy   QUOTE (Inferia @ Nov 11 2008, 02:47 PM) F...   Nov 11 2008, 05:39 PM
|- - Inferia   QUOTE (Mommy @ Nov 11 2008, 06:39 PM) the...   Nov 12 2008, 10:41 AM
- - chook   I went to private school all but one year. I live...   Nov 11 2008, 03:28 PM
- - Spectatrix   He's proven that he doesn't have a clue......   Nov 12 2008, 12:09 PM
- - chook   I taught middle school as a sub Hutch in Lubbock a...   Nov 12 2008, 03:06 PM
- - James   You're right. I'll go now.   Nov 12 2008, 05:12 PM
- - Mommy   James teaches in a high school or junior high. I h...   Nov 12 2008, 06:47 PM
- - pysex   all of this is really really boring   Nov 12 2008, 07:01 PM


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