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post Oct 27 2008, 11:58 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

Ignore the typing, just listen to the content.

It is not best for the courts to undertake the task of redistributing wealth, instead it is an act that should fall upon the lawmakers.

This is some seriously scary stuff, especially if he still has these views.


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post Oct 27 2008, 09:10 PM
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Why so serious?


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Wow, actually a good post there.

I disagree that the vast majority of state jobs are "easy." Certainly the typical service areas, similar to those in the private sector, are more lax than the job of say...a professor or engineer. Others though tend to equate reasonably well in the pay-to-difficulty ratio.
I think the draw of state jobs leads itself more towards the benefits (medical/vision/dental insurance, leave days, etc.), not necessarily the lack of hard work as you'd put it.

But yes, it is quite obvious that similar jobs in the private sector (in a fair majority of cases) will pay more than their public sector counterparts.
But again: higher pay doesn't = the best benefits.

As for the rest of your post: nothing but insults.
-Obama isn't a Socialist or Communist, but that horse has been beaten to death. To me it's the same as calling Bush another Hitler...fun to toss out an insult, but moronic to actually hold it as truth.
-Just because myself and others may support a particular candidate of differing views than your own does NOT mean we are somehow "inferior" in the workplace or any less committed to earning a living.


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post Oct 27 2008, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Oct 27 2008, 09:10 PM) *
Wow, actually a good post there.

I disagree that the vast majority of state jobs are "easy." Certainly the typical service areas, similar to those in the private sector, are more lax than the job of say...a professor or engineer. Others though tend to equate reasonably well in the pay-to-difficulty ratio.
I think the draw of state jobs leads itself more towards the benefits (medical/vision/dental insurance, leave days, etc.), not necessarily the lack of hard work as you'd put it.

But yes, it is quite obvious that similar jobs in the private sector (in a fair majority of cases) will pay more than their public sector counterparts.
But again: higher pay doesn't = the best benefits.

As for the rest of your post: nothing but insults.
-Obama isn't a Socialist or Communist, but that horse has been beaten to death. To me it's the same as calling Bush another Hitler...fun to toss out an insult, but moronic to actually hold it as truth.
-Just because myself and others may support a particular candidate of differing views than your own does NOT mean we are somehow "inferior" in the workplace or any less committed to earning a living.


I'm not trying to insinuate inferiority, I'm trying to make the point that the vast vast vast majority of the people who are in the top tax brackets made the choice to work their way there. They figured out a way to get there, it wasn't just handed to them which is the mentality that this "tax the rich" bravado conveys to people. If you're happy with what you make, fine, but it's complete bullshit expect those who have put the time and effort in making more than you to have to pay for people who refuse to do so, which is what the tax policies the Democrats have been pushing for the last 30+ years amount to.

And, there is a HUGE difference between somone making $250,000,000 a year and $250,000 a year. Obamas tax policy doesn't discriminate at all in this respect.

The "$250,000" is a direct swipe at the affluent upper middle class. Not the "rich". And whats more, I don't even know if you could consider $250,000 "affluent" these days with how expensive everything is .... I'd phrase it more like "not hurting with some financial security and a little bit of disposable income".


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- Hartmann   Obama on Chicago Public Radio: 2001   Oct 27 2008, 11:58 AM
- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 27 2008, 11:58 AM) ...   Oct 27 2008, 12:22 PM
- - Watchman   he can redistribute my wealth from my cold dead ha...   Oct 27 2008, 12:24 PM
- - chook   I think I need to buy gold and bury it.   Oct 27 2008, 02:00 PM
- - cmac   do republicans still think mccain has a chance?   Oct 27 2008, 02:13 PM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (cmac @ Oct 27 2008, 03:13 PM) do r...   Oct 27 2008, 02:16 PM
|- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 27 2008, 02:16 PM) ...   Oct 27 2008, 02:24 PM
- - cmac   didn't watch the clip. just didn't wanna...   Oct 27 2008, 02:18 PM
- - Hartmann   I should expand on what I was saying above... I d...   Oct 27 2008, 02:21 PM
- - cmac   are you referring to me not having to work for my ...   Oct 27 2008, 02:58 PM
|- - chook   QUOTE (cmac @ Oct 27 2008, 02:58 PM) are ...   Oct 27 2008, 03:40 PM
- - cmac   not sure where that came from. i'm a web devel...   Oct 27 2008, 03:51 PM
|- - chook   QUOTE (cmac @ Oct 27 2008, 04:51 PM) not ...   Oct 27 2008, 05:26 PM
|- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (cmac @ Oct 27 2008, 03:51 PM) not ...   Oct 27 2008, 08:23 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Oct 27 2008, 09:23 PM) S...   Oct 27 2008, 08:24 PM
|- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Oct 27 2008, 08:24 PM)...   Oct 27 2008, 08:46 PM
- - cmac   front end (x)html, css mostly some php and javascr...   Oct 27 2008, 05:43 PM
- - cmac   you couldn't be more wrong. at least in how yo...   Oct 27 2008, 09:08 PM
- - Psykopath   Wow, actually a good post there. I disagree that ...   Oct 27 2008, 09:10 PM
|- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Oct 27 2008, 09:10 PM)...   Oct 27 2008, 09:23 PM
|- - The Fanatic   QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Oct 27 2008, 10:23 PM) I...   Oct 27 2008, 11:32 PM
|- - THECHICKEN   Except for businesses that are incorporated, a com...   Oct 27 2008, 11:46 PM
- - chook   Once you get to that $25 mil/year, you are pr...   Oct 27 2008, 10:23 PM
- - The Fanatic   RE: Obama on Chicago Public Radio: 2001   Oct 27 2008, 11:30 PM
- - chook   When I was very little, I got to see East Berlin. ...   Oct 28 2008, 12:11 AM
- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE but it's complete bullshit expect those ...   Oct 28 2008, 01:50 AM
|- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Oct 28 2008, 01:50 ...   Oct 28 2008, 01:57 AM
- - Hartmann   As a small business owner I see the Obama stance t...   Oct 28 2008, 06:22 AM
- - Spectatrix   Hartmann, my understanding is that Obama's tax...   Oct 28 2008, 10:02 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 28 2008, 11:02 AM...   Oct 28 2008, 11:32 AM
- - Spectatrix   Thanks, Hartmann, good info. It's food for th...   Oct 28 2008, 12:02 PM
- - Mommy   Lol, Christine thinks Obama has foreign policy exp...   Oct 28 2008, 02:48 PM
|- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Mommy @ Oct 28 2008, 03:48 PM) Lol...   Oct 29 2008, 11:45 AM
- - chook   Either way we are lost.   Oct 28 2008, 03:58 PM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (chook @ Oct 28 2008, 04:58 PM) Eit...   Oct 28 2008, 04:32 PM
- - The Fanatic   And the mexicans   Oct 29 2008, 10:25 AM
- - Hartmann   I was reading this interview with Obama: http://ww...   Nov 4 2008, 07:49 AM


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