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post Oct 13 2008, 12:12 PM
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post Oct 16 2008, 07:56 PM
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IMO women who want to be in the military should have to pass the same physical requirements as men. Currently, that is not the case. For instance, a 21 year old male is allotted less time to complete a PT test run than a woman of the same age. Women also do not have to complete as many push-ups or sit-ups. Why? Because most women do not have the physical capacity that men do. The male body is built differently than ours. We are stronger in other areas. Obviously, women tend to have a higher pain threshold than men because of our ability to carry and bear children. That's not to say a guy can't withstand pain, but a woman's body is built for it. If anyone here thinks there are not psychological differences between men and women, they are sorely mislead. Women want to share their feelings. They tend to bring their problems home from work. Men, on the other hand, keep a lot more of it in. They would rather separate work and home life. If women were drafted that did not want to be there (as would be the case with any draft), they would be a hell of a lot more vocal about it than men would (IN MOST CASES). They would bring everyone down with them. Men keep their experiences in. Think about all those war stories you hear about Vietnam vets who never talk about their experiences during the war. Keeping it private is their way of dealing with it. I don't care what MOS a person has in the military. As a male, it doesn't matter your MOS, you still have to pass the same physical fitness requirements as others. A medic has to be just as fit as someone who is infintry. (Unless of course they are some sort of special force like the Navy Seals, etc.) Why? Because those people are there to FIGHT if need be. If they ever to assume the fighting role, they can. Women would be a waste of military resources. They would be a liability because of their ability to get pregnant. I am old fashioned. I think the man should be the protector of the household. When I got married, I wanted to join the Army; but Shane wouldn't let me. He knew I would go to Iraq as soon as I finish OTS and AIT (if I had to even do AIT) because I have no specialty degree like law or engineering. If God (or the evolutionary process for that matter) wanted us to be as strong as men, we would be. Yeah, I think women should be able to vote, go wherever they please, divorce their husbands, work a good job; but I don't think they should be mandated to participate in a war, no matter what their assignment is. We all know that in a war, disaster can strike any time any place. Honestly, men, do you really want a bunch of women responsible for your life if a "green zone" area were to attacked?

We got really lucky when we got here to Georgia. My husband was attached to a brigade that is the first of its kind. The government asked the Army to head up a special unit to deal with homeland security. The brigade my husband is in was the first one to head up the operation. They are assigned to it for a year. Because of this, he cannot be deployed OVERSEAS for the next 18 months or so. However, he has to be ready at a minutes notice to deploy anywhere in the United States to respond to anything from a 9/11 situation to a natural disaster such as Katrina. I know none of you care and it's off topic. I just thought it was a neat assignment for the military to hand out. I didn't even hear about it until he was began all the training for it.
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- Watchman   both mccain and obama want a draft   Oct 13 2008, 12:12 PM
- - Spectatrix   Do you even read the articles you post? QUOTE Eve...   Oct 13 2008, 12:37 PM
- - Watchman   they wouldn't be debating that women should or...   Oct 13 2008, 12:39 PM
- - Spectatrix   I oppose a draft, yet I still support women being ...   Oct 13 2008, 12:52 PM
- - Dogmeat   I fully and completley support women having to reg...   Oct 13 2008, 01:06 PM
- - Spectatrix   I'm a skinny bitch. Does that mean I'd be...   Oct 13 2008, 01:54 PM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2008, 02:54 PM...   Oct 13 2008, 02:52 PM
|- - chook   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2008, 02:54 PM...   Oct 13 2008, 02:53 PM
|- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2008, 01:54 PM...   Oct 14 2008, 02:13 PM
- - Mommy   Honestly, if women were susceptible to being draft...   Oct 13 2008, 03:58 PM
- - Spectatrix   1) They wouldn't draft both parents of a house...   Oct 13 2008, 04:23 PM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2008, 05:23 PM...   Oct 13 2008, 04:39 PM
|- - Mommy   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2008, 05:23 PM...   Oct 13 2008, 05:29 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Mommy @ Oct 13 2008, 06:29 PM) Wel...   Oct 13 2008, 07:23 PM
||- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Oct 13 2008, 08:23 PM)...   Oct 13 2008, 07:26 PM
|||- - Psykopath   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Oct 13 2008, 08:26 ...   Oct 13 2008, 07:27 PM
||- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Oct 13 2008, 07:23 PM)...   Oct 14 2008, 02:15 PM
|- - Billy   QUOTE (Mommy @ Oct 13 2008, 06:29 PM) Wel...   Oct 14 2008, 11:56 AM
|- - Mommy   QUOTE (Billy @ Oct 14 2008, 12:56 PM) Sou...   Oct 14 2008, 02:44 PM
|- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Mommy @ Oct 14 2008, 03:44 PM) No....   Oct 14 2008, 03:02 PM
|- - Billy   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 14 2008, 04:02 PM...   Oct 14 2008, 04:35 PM
||- - The Fanatic   QUOTE (Billy @ Oct 14 2008, 05:35 PM) ...   Oct 14 2008, 08:01 PM
|- - Mommy   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 14 2008, 03:02 PM...   Oct 14 2008, 05:21 PM
- - FORSAKENR320   in general, women are pretty worthless at everythi...   Oct 13 2008, 07:25 PM
|- - Inferia   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Oct 13 2008, 07:25 ...   Oct 14 2008, 11:25 AM
|- - Oasis   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Oct 13 2008, 08:25 ...   Oct 14 2008, 03:04 PM
- - Spectatrix   Jessica, the point of the draft is to shore up the...   Oct 13 2008, 07:32 PM
- - Inferia   Isn't it rather judgmental to say that women a...   Oct 14 2008, 11:05 AM
- - woody   draft em both if their preggers, they get 8 weeks...   Oct 14 2008, 11:27 AM
- - Hartmann   http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08287/91958...d=ele...   Oct 14 2008, 12:21 PM
|- - Inferia   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 14 2008, 01:21 PM) ...   Oct 14 2008, 01:30 PM
||- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Inferia @ Oct 14 2008, 02:30 PM) S...   Oct 14 2008, 01:47 PM
||- - Inferia   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 14 2008, 01:47 PM) ...   Oct 14 2008, 02:07 PM
||- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Inferia @ Oct 14 2008, 03:07 PM) W...   Oct 14 2008, 02:16 PM
||- - Inferia   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 14 2008, 02:16 PM) ...   Oct 14 2008, 02:19 PM
||- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Inferia @ Oct 14 2008, 03:19 PM) I...   Oct 14 2008, 03:44 PM
||- - Inferia   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 14 2008, 03:44 PM) ...   Oct 15 2008, 08:07 AM
||- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Inferia @ Oct 15 2008, 09:07 AM) S...   Oct 15 2008, 08:44 AM
|- - Inferia   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 15 2008, 09:44 AM) ...   Oct 15 2008, 03:39 PM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Inferia @ Oct 15 2008, 04:39 PM) T...   Oct 17 2008, 06:50 AM
- - woody   in other words... women are a walking uterus   Oct 14 2008, 01:47 PM
- - Dogmeat   See, since women are weaker physically and all tha...   Oct 14 2008, 02:22 PM
- - Inferia   http://www.womenhunters.com/womenhunters-wsj.html ...   Oct 14 2008, 02:28 PM
- - woody   what is his mos? 91k?   Oct 14 2008, 07:08 PM
- - FORSAKENR320   somewhere in all of inferia's "pretty wor...   Oct 14 2008, 08:11 PM
- - Billy   We need to make you earn your equal rights.   Oct 14 2008, 08:30 PM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Billy @ Oct 14 2008, 09:30 PM) We ...   Oct 14 2008, 08:34 PM
||- - Billy   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 14 2008, 09:34 PM) ...   Oct 15 2008, 10:51 AM
|- - chook   QUOTE (Billy @ Oct 14 2008, 08:30 PM) We ...   Oct 14 2008, 08:50 PM
- - chook   The problem I see in engineering is that a lot of ...   Oct 14 2008, 08:54 PM
|- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (chook @ Oct 14 2008, 08:54 PM) The...   Oct 15 2008, 08:34 AM
- - Mommy   I don't understand why any of you think drafti...   Oct 15 2008, 07:46 PM
- - Spectatrix   Awesome, now I'm a feminist nazi. I'll ha...   Oct 15 2008, 08:29 PM
|- - chook   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 15 2008, 09:29 PM...   Oct 15 2008, 10:00 PM
- - Mommy   It is feminazi to think you can or should do every...   Oct 16 2008, 08:21 AM
- - Spectatrix   And it's sexist to assume that because some wo...   Oct 16 2008, 09:24 AM
- - Mommy   Women should not be fighting wars. I already state...   Oct 16 2008, 09:26 AM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Mommy @ Oct 16 2008, 10:26 AM) Wom...   Oct 16 2008, 05:45 PM
- - Spectatrix   And I disagree. I do not think that women who are...   Oct 16 2008, 09:46 AM
|- - Mommy   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 16 2008, 10:46 AM...   Oct 16 2008, 10:22 AM
- - Spectatrix   Yeah, I said that in like three posts. Drafting o...   Oct 16 2008, 11:21 AM
- - woody   women are too emotional to drive yank their licens...   Oct 16 2008, 12:25 PM
- - Watchman   women aren't good for anything except cooking ...   Oct 16 2008, 12:42 PM
- - Psykopath   Women are too emotional for high-stress positions ...   Oct 16 2008, 01:02 PM
- - Mommy   I think seeing people DIE is a little different th...   Oct 16 2008, 01:18 PM
|- - Inferia   QUOTE (Mommy @ Oct 16 2008, 01:18 PM) I t...   Oct 16 2008, 01:24 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Mommy @ Oct 16 2008, 02:18 PM) I t...   Oct 16 2008, 01:27 PM
||- - Mommy   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Oct 16 2008, 01:27 PM)...   Oct 16 2008, 01:39 PM
||- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Mommy @ Oct 16 2008, 02:39 PM) I...   Oct 16 2008, 01:49 PM
|- - Billy   QUOTE (Mommy @ Oct 16 2008, 02:18 PM) I t...   Oct 16 2008, 06:39 PM
- - Watchman   STFU WOMAN   Oct 16 2008, 01:49 PM
- - Spectatrix   Jessica, why do you never want a female president?   Oct 16 2008, 03:43 PM
- - Mommy   because women are silly.   Oct 16 2008, 03:54 PM
|- - Inferia   QUOTE (Mommy @ Oct 16 2008, 04:54 PM) bec...   Oct 16 2008, 05:40 PM
|- - Mommy   QUOTE (Inferia @ Oct 16 2008, 05:40 PM) E...   Oct 16 2008, 07:33 PM
- - FORSAKENR320   i think what spec is saying makes sense, (as usual...   Oct 16 2008, 06:01 PM
- - THECHICKEN   There a MANY female cops and soldiers already. Inc...   Oct 16 2008, 07:06 PM
- - Mommy   IMO women who want to be in the military should ha...   Oct 16 2008, 07:56 PM
- - THECHICKEN   Arguments based off of stereotypes are fun. Why ...   Oct 16 2008, 08:47 PM
|- - Mommy   QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Oct 16 2008, 08:47 PM...   Oct 17 2008, 08:21 AM
- - FORSAKENR320   JESSICA:: "blah blah blah, women shouldn...   Oct 16 2008, 08:52 PM
|- - Mommy   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Oct 16 2008, 08:52 ...   Oct 17 2008, 08:34 AM
|- - Inferia   QUOTE (Mommy @ Oct 17 2008, 09:34 AM) And...   Oct 17 2008, 09:01 AM
||- - Mommy   QUOTE (Inferia @ Oct 17 2008, 09:01 AM) I...   Oct 17 2008, 11:59 AM
|- - THECHICKEN   QUOTE (Mommy @ Oct 17 2008, 09:34 AM) And...   Oct 17 2008, 09:21 AM
||- - Mommy   QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Oct 17 2008, 09:21 AM...   Oct 17 2008, 12:03 PM
|- - chook   QUOTE (Mommy @ Oct 17 2008, 08:34 AM) And...   Oct 17 2008, 11:08 AM
|- - Mommy   QUOTE (chook @ Oct 17 2008, 11:08 AM) Bes...   Oct 17 2008, 12:04 PM
- - Watchman   RE: both mccain and obama want a draft   Oct 16 2008, 09:56 PM
- - The Fanatic   Black people should not be allowed to serve in the...   Oct 16 2008, 10:38 PM
|- - Inferia   QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Oct 16 2008, 11:38 P...   Oct 17 2008, 07:03 AM
- - Spectatrix   Wow. Just wow. This thread has gotten a bit too ...   Oct 17 2008, 10:13 AM
|- - Mommy   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 17 2008, 10:13 AM...   Oct 17 2008, 12:06 PM
- - Spectatrix   IF one spouse (either gender) is already in the mi...   Oct 17 2008, 01:28 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 17 2008, 02:28 PM...   Oct 17 2008, 01:36 PM
|- - Inferia   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 17 2008, 01:28 PM...   Oct 17 2008, 01:51 PM
- - Spectatrix   For divorce, there's alimony. For death, the ...   Oct 17 2008, 02:03 PM
|- - Inferia   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 17 2008, 03:03 PM...   Oct 17 2008, 02:10 PM
- - Spectatrix   Potentially, yes, though alimony payments are part...   Oct 17 2008, 02:16 PM
- - Watchman   will this thread ever die, boooooring   Oct 17 2008, 02:18 PM
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