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post Oct 13 2008, 12:12 PM
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post Oct 13 2008, 07:25 PM
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in general, women are pretty worthless at everything they do. (there are a few exceptions)

guys make better professional cooks. single parent households where the male is the parent raise kids with better grades.... etc etc etc.

alot of this is because they aren't EXPECTED to take responsibility for themselves through most their lives.

sure, women "took care of the country" during ww2, but what choice did they have? just goes to show that women are capable of being drafted, they just need to balls up for it and quit bitching. best thing that could happen to the majority of our worthless and ignorant baby factories would be if they had a good taste of some manuel labor, and stop recieving special treatment.

equal rights means equal responsibility.


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post Oct 14 2008, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Oct 13 2008, 07:25 PM) *
in general, women are pretty worthless at everything they do. (there are a few exceptions)

guys make better professional cooks. single parent households where the male is the parent raise kids with better grades.... etc etc etc.

alot of this is because they aren't EXPECTED to take responsibility for themselves through most their lives.

sure, women "took care of the country" during ww2, but what choice did they have? just goes to show that women are capable of being drafted, they just need to balls up for it and quit bitching. best thing that could happen to the majority of our worthless and ignorant baby factories would be if they had a good taste of some manuel labor, and stop recieving special treatment.

equal rights means equal responsibility.


Seriously? What kind of environment do you live in? Anyway, lets toss this one around for kicks. For cenutries, perhaps even millenniums, it's been the good ol' boy's club in many countries. Sure, you can say that statistically women are suited for child bearing and raring, but why stop there, lets also say statistically white men are better at governance and the black folks are pretty darn good at that field work. All jokes aside, people are better at what they're trained to do. If your dad is a mechanic you probably know a few more things about the engine than the average folk. Traditionally, women are brought up to be a mother, to be a wife. Traditionally, women are not brought up to be a mechanic, a scientist, or even a chef. If the focus on training is on men, then it shouldn't come as a surprise that men are better than women at a certain job. So much of this is upbringing of a person and the net society casts on us. We talk about social mobility in my social science classes, how the shape of society is set up up so that a certain group of people is more likely to succeed in a certain life, where as others not. Society places a limit on mobility, it has a subconscience way of keep certain people down for good or bad. This limited mobility is often used as a stereotype that such and such group is only good at so and so. But is it really true? I don't know, it's rather hard to judge. In this particular case, women is such a large category. I'm not sure if women constitute as half of the people on earth, if not, it's probably pretty damn close. I would say there should be a large enough variation if all things are held equal, it would be hard to say that women has these following characteristics, and the same can be said for men. But that's just the thing, things are rarely ever held as "equal".

And by the way, men are not better cooks than women, there are just more of them in the chef profession than women.


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- Watchman   both mccain and obama want a draft   Oct 13 2008, 12:12 PM
- - Spectatrix   Do you even read the articles you post? QUOTE Eve...   Oct 13 2008, 12:37 PM
- - Watchman   they wouldn't be debating that women should or...   Oct 13 2008, 12:39 PM
- - Spectatrix   I oppose a draft, yet I still support women being ...   Oct 13 2008, 12:52 PM
- - Dogmeat   I fully and completley support women having to reg...   Oct 13 2008, 01:06 PM
- - Spectatrix   I'm a skinny bitch. Does that mean I'd be...   Oct 13 2008, 01:54 PM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2008, 02:54 PM...   Oct 13 2008, 02:52 PM
|- - chook   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2008, 02:54 PM...   Oct 13 2008, 02:53 PM
|- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2008, 01:54 PM...   Oct 14 2008, 02:13 PM
- - Mommy   Honestly, if women were susceptible to being draft...   Oct 13 2008, 03:58 PM
- - Spectatrix   1) They wouldn't draft both parents of a house...   Oct 13 2008, 04:23 PM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2008, 05:23 PM...   Oct 13 2008, 04:39 PM
|- - Mommy   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2008, 05:23 PM...   Oct 13 2008, 05:29 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Mommy @ Oct 13 2008, 06:29 PM) Wel...   Oct 13 2008, 07:23 PM
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|- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Mommy @ Oct 14 2008, 03:44 PM) No....   Oct 14 2008, 03:02 PM
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|- - Mommy   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 14 2008, 03:02 PM...   Oct 14 2008, 05:21 PM
- - FORSAKENR320   in general, women are pretty worthless at everythi...   Oct 13 2008, 07:25 PM
|- - Inferia   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Oct 13 2008, 07:25 ...   Oct 14 2008, 11:25 AM
|- - Oasis   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Oct 13 2008, 08:25 ...   Oct 14 2008, 03:04 PM
- - Spectatrix   Jessica, the point of the draft is to shore up the...   Oct 13 2008, 07:32 PM
- - Inferia   Isn't it rather judgmental to say that women a...   Oct 14 2008, 11:05 AM
- - woody   draft em both if their preggers, they get 8 weeks...   Oct 14 2008, 11:27 AM
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- - FORSAKENR320   somewhere in all of inferia's "pretty wor...   Oct 14 2008, 08:11 PM
- - Billy   We need to make you earn your equal rights.   Oct 14 2008, 08:30 PM
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|- - chook   QUOTE (Billy @ Oct 14 2008, 08:30 PM) We ...   Oct 14 2008, 08:50 PM
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|- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (chook @ Oct 14 2008, 08:54 PM) The...   Oct 15 2008, 08:34 AM
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- - Spectatrix   Awesome, now I'm a feminist nazi. I'll ha...   Oct 15 2008, 08:29 PM
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- - Mommy   It is feminazi to think you can or should do every...   Oct 16 2008, 08:21 AM
- - Spectatrix   And it's sexist to assume that because some wo...   Oct 16 2008, 09:24 AM
- - Mommy   Women should not be fighting wars. I already state...   Oct 16 2008, 09:26 AM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Mommy @ Oct 16 2008, 10:26 AM) Wom...   Oct 16 2008, 05:45 PM
- - Spectatrix   And I disagree. I do not think that women who are...   Oct 16 2008, 09:46 AM
|- - Mommy   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 16 2008, 10:46 AM...   Oct 16 2008, 10:22 AM
- - Spectatrix   Yeah, I said that in like three posts. Drafting o...   Oct 16 2008, 11:21 AM
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- - Watchman   STFU WOMAN   Oct 16 2008, 01:49 PM
- - Spectatrix   Jessica, why do you never want a female president?   Oct 16 2008, 03:43 PM
- - Mommy   because women are silly.   Oct 16 2008, 03:54 PM
|- - Inferia   QUOTE (Mommy @ Oct 16 2008, 04:54 PM) bec...   Oct 16 2008, 05:40 PM
|- - Mommy   QUOTE (Inferia @ Oct 16 2008, 05:40 PM) E...   Oct 16 2008, 07:33 PM
- - FORSAKENR320   i think what spec is saying makes sense, (as usual...   Oct 16 2008, 06:01 PM
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