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Who do you think won the debate?
Who do you think won the debate?
McCain [ 5 ] ** [41.67%]
Obama [ 7 ] ** [58.33%]
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Billy
post Sep 26 2008, 08:39 PM
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I like McCain. But I feel that McCain treated it like a beauty pageant and Obama actually debated.


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THECHICKEN
post Sep 28 2008, 01:14 AM
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My biggest problem with obama is his "if you make less than 250k a year you want get tax raises" (inferring a tax increase above that). Then he goes on to say that to the people who say he is raising taxes on small businesses (since small businesses are equated to the owner's income taxes), he is planning on closing the "tax loop holes" that let small businesses pay less taxes than lower tax brackets. ... that scares the shit out of me. The reason small businesses SHOULD be given lower tax brackets is because of the way the tax system is SET UP. 250k of income when taking into account a business isn't that much in today's world... and we need those businesses to hire people... you know... jobs.

Obama is just a little to naive for me. He's extremely intelligent, but a little to idealistic. He doesn't seem to see some of the nuances of the world. Giving 50 bucks back to every tax payer is one tank of gas. Giving money back to more wealthy puts money either into stocks (capital to grow businesses), or into banking so that the banks can loan to people to start businesses or get homes... when those are paid off then money in the economy grows... allowing more loans ... then more money...etc.

Of course im not for taxing the middle class and not the rich... obviously. Also, i recognize the failure that has taken place with our banking systems running off the tracks. But those are all fixable with legislation. When FINANCE smartly dictates companies... economics takes over. America has had the most steady system in history... thats why investments in america are sure payments (historically). The system isn't broken... only the players. Clinton started the banking crash... bush perpetuated it, and congress let it happen.


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- Billy   McCain vs Obama debate   Sep 26 2008, 08:39 PM
- - Dogmeat   I didn't actually watch the debates, however, ...   Sep 26 2008, 08:51 PM
- - impala454   Didn't catch it because I was at the 'stro...   Sep 26 2008, 11:01 PM
- - Psykopath   I thought it was a good forum. Both candidates wer...   Sep 26 2008, 11:27 PM
- - impala454   Cool. I don't see the damn thing on rerun yet...   Sep 26 2008, 11:30 PM
- - Psykopath   found just the very first part: http://www.youtube...   Sep 26 2008, 11:46 PM
- - Psykopath   WAIT! Here's the whole debate on CNN: http...   Sep 26 2008, 11:47 PM
- - Dogmeat   Yes, indeed I was correct, Obama lost the debate d...   Sep 27 2008, 02:00 AM
- - Mommy   I think McCain is dead on with his ideals on earma...   Sep 27 2008, 06:28 AM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Mommy @ Sep 27 2008, 07:28 AM) I t...   Sep 27 2008, 06:46 PM
|- - Mommy   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Sep 27 2008, 06:46 PM)...   Sep 27 2008, 07:04 PM
- - pysex   McCain won the debate for sure. Obama stuttered wa...   Sep 27 2008, 09:27 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (pysex @ Sep 27 2008, 10:27 AM) McC...   Sep 27 2008, 10:57 PM
- - The Fanatic   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu7feUQ-9fg&NR=...   Sep 27 2008, 04:48 PM
- - Mommy   McCain defines SPECIFIC ways in which he intends o...   Sep 27 2008, 06:30 PM
|- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Mommy @ Sep 27 2008, 07:30 PM) McC...   Sep 27 2008, 07:07 PM
|- - Mommy   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Sep 27 2008, 07:07 PM...   Sep 27 2008, 07:11 PM
- - Mommy   And Zach, QUOTE The total combined wealth of the...   Sep 27 2008, 07:12 PM
- - Mommy   Christine, tell me how Obama plans to increase gov...   Sep 27 2008, 07:13 PM
- - Dogmeat   Obama is a principle in the proprieting of the Dic...   Sep 27 2008, 07:25 PM
- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (Mommy @ Sep 27 2008, 08:11 PM) On ...   Sep 27 2008, 07:50 PM
|- - Mommy   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Sep 27 2008, 08:50 PM...   Sep 27 2008, 07:59 PM
- - Spectatrix   Also, Jessica, as far as your comments about trick...   Sep 27 2008, 08:00 PM
|- - Mommy   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Sep 27 2008, 08:00 PM...   Sep 27 2008, 08:13 PM
- - Spectatrix   McCain's plan is to cut taxes across the board...   Sep 27 2008, 08:29 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Sep 27 2008, 09:29 PM...   Sep 27 2008, 11:02 PM
- - Spectatrix   I have such interest in politics, but I'm far ...   Sep 27 2008, 08:29 PM
- - Psykopath   Trickle-down economics largely relies upon "g...   Sep 27 2008, 09:23 PM
- - THECHICKEN   My biggest problem with obama is his "if you ...   Sep 28 2008, 01:14 AM
|- - Mommy   QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Sep 28 2008, 02:14 AM...   Sep 28 2008, 09:52 AM
- - Dogmeat   obama is a fraud   Sep 28 2008, 09:34 AM
- - Billy   CNN poll indicates Obama won first round of Debate...   Sep 28 2008, 10:49 AM
|- - THECHICKEN   QUOTE (Billy @ Sep 28 2008, 11:49 AM) CNN...   Sep 28 2008, 11:02 AM
|- - Mommy   QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Sep 28 2008, 12:02 PM...   Sep 28 2008, 11:20 AM
- - Mommy   I'll be honest, I only watched part 1 of the d...   Sep 28 2008, 10:54 AM
- - woody   polls in general have become ghey they've bec...   Sep 28 2008, 02:30 PM
- - chook   I think spex has the right idea about middle class...   Sep 29 2008, 12:09 PM


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