Sep 22 2008, 12:26 PM
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![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 2,499 Joined: 23-February 06 From: El Paso Texas Member No.: 32 |
Since i don't see a topic for this. What do you all think of the bailouts going on right now?
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Sep 25 2008, 12:55 PM
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Let's Bother Snape!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Albuquerque, NM Member No.: 10 |
I think the bailout is a short term fix. And, with the talk of having only one person regulate it all is even worse... No oversight whatsoever.
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Sep 25 2008, 01:18 PM
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![]() The Transient Aggie Group: Members Posts: 546 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 21 |
I think the bailout is a short term fix. And, with the talk of having only one person regulate it all is even worse... No oversight whatsoever. Right. It wont work long-term if the problem of predatory lending isn't addressed. There needs to be reform instituted by the federal government and implemented at the state level that structures lending contracts of all types in a language that fully-discloses the expectation on both parties. Everyone knows it's the fine print that no one reads that ends up screwing them. This needs to be fixed. It might be helpful if the government were to require every bank of a certain size to have on staff a person who is purely on salary and only responsible to the state government who's job it is to explain, in laymens terms, what the terms of every lending contract or credit application entails to discourage predatory lending practices. Also, consumers need to wise up. The common conception tends to be "well, If they offer me this line of credit, they must think that I will be able to pay it back." No. The credit card companies of old who you used to be able to trust have changed into profit-hungry mega-corps. They want your money. They WANT you to not be able to pay, because they make more money that way. Remember, they are private corporations, too and are driven by the profits to make their stockholders richer. Credit is no longer something that must be earned, like it was with your mothers and fathers. You used to be taught you need "Capital, capacity' and commitment [to repay]" -- the three C's -- to get a line of credit. Now all you need is a social security number. Predatory lending on college campuses is legendary now. They give you a free shirt, frisbee, or pizza whatever for signing up, all for the price of putting YOUR information into MULTIPLE credit card databases. Lo and behold, a credit card comes in the mail. Kids don't think about the long-term consequences of interest payments when they buy their new PS3, Plasma screen, or Xbox360. They buy stuff, have only a part-time job and tend to get in way over their heads. Most times, their parents try and bail them out, but many many times they cant and are in debt forever. In addition, credit card companies spend BILLIONS of dollars annually to lobby and get the bankruptcy laws changed so that you need to have a certain amount of debt to file for it. This way they can keep charging you until you die. In a whole, society needs to return to the roots of responsibility and spending within your means. Banks need to stop pushing customers to get into adjustable rate mortgages with principal payments that are multiple times higher than the customer can afford. Consumers need to wise up and understand exactly how a loan works and what is expected of them to ensure that they can afford future payments, and the federal government needs to stop encouraging banks to make bad loans under the guise that they need to increase home ownership to satisfy their constituency. And society needs to return to the roots of responsibility not only fiscally. It's ridiculous how much people are allowed to blame on others. You spill hot coffee on yourself? Sue the vendor for not warning you. You get pregnant by not using condoms or birth control? Get an abortion. You aren't happy 100% of the time in your marriage? Just get divorced. You cant afford your house because you are living outside your means? Just declare bankruptcy. You want a flat screen TV but cannot afford it? Get a credit card. Everyone else is in debt up their nuts. It's cool. Don't want to take the time to understand your mortgage contract? Oh well, these people are probably trustworthy, just sign on the X and hope it works out. There's a quick fix for everything nowadays and many people do not want to make the realization that they acted incorrectly in the past, so they are taking with the path of least resistance and most convenience, regardless of the long-term consequences. Im not putting any moral qualifiers or judgements on any of the above decisions, I am just positing that as a whole, when taken together, it creates a culture of wreckless irresponsibility. /rant over. -------------------- ![]() A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have. |
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woody Bailouts Sep 22 2008, 12:26 PM
woody http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business...aff-9... Sep 22 2008, 12:29 PM
impala454 QUOTE (woody @ Sep 22 2008, 01:29 PM) htt... Sep 22 2008, 12:51 PM
chook I think the DOT should take that money from the po... Sep 22 2008, 06:17 PM
woody Ron Paul on Bailout
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLIT... Sep 23 2008, 08:50 AM
woody must be nice to file for bankruptcy and set aside ... Sep 23 2008, 08:59 AM
Spectatrix I think the bailouts are a bad idea. I think they... Sep 23 2008, 09:36 AM
THECHICKEN QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Sep 23 2008, 10:36 AM... Sep 23 2008, 09:46 AM
Spectatrix My view is... either regulate & pick up the ta... Sep 23 2008, 10:31 AM
chook Isn't this socialism, but in a messed up fudal... Sep 23 2008, 10:32 AM
Spectatrix It's the worst of both worlds.
And before Imp... Sep 23 2008, 10:42 AM
nickluto I think they should go under. They have no busines... Sep 23 2008, 01:29 PM
Spectatrix QUOTE (nickluto @ Sep 23 2008, 02:29 PM) ... Sep 23 2008, 02:56 PM
Hartmann QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Sep 23 2008, 03:56 PM... Sep 23 2008, 06:41 PM

Spectatrix QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 23 2008, 07:41 PM) ... Sep 23 2008, 07:52 PM
dauss QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Sep 23 2008, 02:56 PM... Sep 23 2008, 06:57 PM
Hartmann When Clinton was in office he claimed to make hous... Sep 23 2008, 02:29 PM
Spectatrix If you oppose the $700 billion bank bailout t... Sep 24 2008, 08:54 AM
chook Thanks Spex, I just wrote mine. Sep 24 2008, 11:51 AM
Spectatrix Coolio. I figured I might as well get off my ass ... Sep 24 2008, 12:25 PM
dauss I don't know what will work. Throwing money a... Sep 24 2008, 06:32 PM
nickluto QUOTE (dauss @ Sep 24 2008, 07:32 PM) I d... Sep 25 2008, 12:08 PM
impala454 Yeah I'm pretty much the same. There's no... Sep 24 2008, 06:45 PM
Psykopath I love you 8-bit Theater. Sep 25 2008, 01:36 AM
impala454 That wasn't even remotely funny. Sep 25 2008, 09:50 AM
Spectatrix You don't think the orbital position for a sta... Sep 25 2008, 10:50 AM
impala454 Yeah, I am a little lame sometimes. I've lear... Sep 25 2008, 11:41 AM
impala454 I've heard the feds could stand to reap over 2... Sep 25 2008, 12:14 PM
pysex QUOTE (nickluto @ Sep 25 2008, 02:18 PM) ... Sep 26 2008, 07:45 AM
cmac well put. Sep 25 2008, 01:56 PM
nickluto New development. Maybe this is why McCain went to ... Sep 25 2008, 01:59 PM
Hartmann QUOTE (nickluto @ Sep 25 2008, 02:59 PM) ... Sep 25 2008, 02:19 PM
Oasis So what is Plan B, if the bailout is unsuccessful?... Sep 25 2008, 02:26 PM
Hartmann QUOTE (Oasis @ Sep 25 2008, 03:26 PM) So ... Sep 25 2008, 02:54 PM
Dogmeat I think we need get off this fucking planet. Perio... Sep 25 2008, 02:55 PM
blaarg QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Sep 25 2008, 02:55 PM) I... Sep 26 2008, 09:21 AM
woody QUOTE (nickluto @ Sep 25 2008, 12:08 PM) ... Sep 25 2008, 03:18 PM
Hartmann I think we should blame the people responsible for... Sep 25 2008, 03:25 PM
Watchman the bailouts won't work
oct. is going to be m... Sep 25 2008, 03:27 PM
impala454 Eh life will go on. People will keep buying plasm... Sep 25 2008, 11:03 PM
blaarg QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 25 2008, 11:03 PM)... Sep 26 2008, 09:21 AM
Spectatrix Great post, nickluto.
I think I learned some valu... Sep 26 2008, 08:46 AM
impala454 QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Sep 26 2008, 09:46 AM... Sep 26 2008, 12:44 PM
Spectatrix Oh, granted. My personal example is pretty extrem... Sep 26 2008, 01:10 PM
impala454 Again though, people racking up that debt isn... Sep 26 2008, 01:28 PM
Spectatrix Bailout got voted down in the house, stocks are pl... Sep 29 2008, 01:05 PM
impala454 Eh it's just a scare. It seems market reactio... Sep 29 2008, 01:10 PM
Psykopath QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 29 2008, 02:10 PM)... Sep 29 2008, 02:11 PM
impala454 Looks like we're not the only ones affected ei... Sep 29 2008, 02:17 PM
Watchman It's good the bailout didn't pass.
The Fe... Sep 29 2008, 03:54 PM
impala454 It's not about the government intervening to t... Sep 29 2008, 11:17 PM
Watchman ^
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lol, NOT government intervention? you am... Sep 29 2008, 11:24 PM
impala454 Read the whole sentence geezus Lance. I didn... Sep 29 2008, 11:35 PM
impala454 It's amazing to me how fucking stupid some of ... Sep 30 2008, 12:01 AM
Psykopath Huh, wow...another "going away wah wah" ... Sep 30 2008, 12:41 AM
Spectatrix QUOTE (Psykopath @ Sep 30 2008, 01:41 AM)... Sep 30 2008, 08:16 AM
Psykopath QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Sep 30 2008, 09:16 AM... Sep 30 2008, 12:35 PM
fingercuffs boob tits Sep 30 2008, 12:56 AM
Watchman lmao impala must be on his period this week Sep 30 2008, 09:28 AM
The Fanatic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNlXgzzdJQA Sep 30 2008, 06:14 PM
dauss well, it just passed.
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/0810... Oct 1 2008, 07:35 PM
The Fanatic Hopefully the members of the house will do the rig... Oct 1 2008, 07:39 PM
Billy QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Oct 1 2008, 08:39 PM... Oct 1 2008, 08:06 PM
Watchman QUOTE (Billy @ Oct 1 2008, 09:06 PM) Gene... Oct 1 2008, 08:32 PM

dauss QUOTE (Watchman @ Oct 1 2008, 08:32 PM) j... Oct 1 2008, 09:36 PM
The Fanatic QUOTE (Billy @ Oct 1 2008, 09:06 PM) Gene... Oct 1 2008, 09:14 PM
Billy QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Oct 1 2008, 10:14 PM... Oct 2 2008, 07:27 PM
nickluto QUOTE (Billy @ Oct 2 2008, 08:27 PM) Othe... Oct 3 2008, 12:48 AM
rabble http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaKkuJVy2YA Oct 1 2008, 07:59 PM
THECHICKEN We need to hurry up and kick this next world war o... Oct 1 2008, 09:58 PM
The Fanatic Last time it ended the depression...
this time ... Oct 1 2008, 10:09 PM
THECHICKEN QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Oct 1 2008, 11:09 PM... Oct 2 2008, 12:21 AM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Oct 2 2008, 01:21 AM)... Oct 2 2008, 02:08 AM
The Fanatic Source: http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/09/you_a... Oct 2 2008, 01:10 AM
pysex yes ww3 is now inevitable... Oct 2 2008, 05:14 AM
Watchman have no fear, the u.s. gov will stage a false flag... Oct 2 2008, 08:52 AM
Watchman http://solari.com/blog/?p=1646 Oct 2 2008, 01:21 PM
woody Sec. 317. Seven-year cost recovery period for moto... Oct 2 2008, 05:33 PM
The Fanatic I mean obviously something needs to be done... i d... Oct 2 2008, 09:29 PM
The Fanatic As expected the Bailout just passed in the house Oct 3 2008, 11:30 AM
nickluto RE: Bailouts Oct 3 2008, 03:14 PM
The Fanatic http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/vid...bailo... Oct 6 2008, 12:17 AM
chook I actually just watched that video and was gonna p... Oct 6 2008, 01:14 AM
Hartmann QUOTE (chook @ Oct 6 2008, 02:14 AM) I ac... Oct 6 2008, 10:11 AM
James Wow. You made Impala quit? Oct 6 2008, 04:30 AM
Hartmann I am wondering what the affects will be on busines... Oct 6 2008, 10:09 AM
The Fanatic Dow falls below 10,000 today... Oct 6 2008, 07:29 PM![]() ![]() |
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