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Billy
post Sep 5 2008, 12:01 PM
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Sarah Palin on the war in Iraq:

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“pray for our military men and women, who are striving for what is right for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God, that’s what we have to make sure we’re praying for. There is a plan, and that plan is God’s plan.”


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impala454
post Sep 8 2008, 11:20 PM
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Let me backtrack since you're become completely lost as to what you're even responding to.

1. you think Sarah Palin's comment means she thinks God came down and told our leaders to invade Iraq. So you make this thread, thinking you've hit some monumental point that should change the face of the election.
2. I respond and explain why I don't believe that's what she said or meant. I have in effect already said what I believe in this post
3. you continue to embellish what you think, over the top and obviously not what Palin said "divine beings visiting and telling you to invade a country".
4. I comment that you simply don't understand what she meant (most likely you're not religious and don't undersand how religious people speak, nothing wrong with that)
5. you refer me to blue's post and call me retarded (blue's post doesn't say anything except repeating the OP and your thoughts, which I have already responded to twice.
6. I call you out for your retarded comment
7. you seemed to think your reference to blue's post was something new
8. I let you know I had already read his post and said my piece
9. now, your most recent post, has nothing to do with anything and basically takes us back to #1. I don't care to repeat the cycle. So you go on believing that Sarah Palin believes our leaders were physically visited by God (in some White House meeting no doubt) and that he told them they should invade Iraq. Because it was just totally coincidental that Saddam Hussein decided to defy UN regulations and allow weapons inspectors in for the five years previous.

I would love to continue to debate the topic if you found some new angle to view her statement at. Rehashing the same shit over and over gets boring.
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post Sep 9 2008, 07:06 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 9 2008, 12:20 AM) *
Let me backtrack since you're become completely lost as to what you're even responding to.

1. you think Sarah Palin's comment means she thinks God came down and told our leaders to invade Iraq. So you make this thread, thinking you've hit some monumental point that should change the face of the election.
2. I respond and explain why I don't believe that's what she said or meant. I have in effect already said what I believe in this post
3. you continue to embellish what you think, over the top and obviously not what Palin said "divine beings visiting and telling you to invade a country".
4. I comment that you simply don't understand what she meant (most likely you're not religious and don't undersand how religious people speak, nothing wrong with that)
5. you refer me to blue's post and call me retarded (blue's post doesn't say anything except repeating the OP and your thoughts, which I have already responded to twice.
6. I call you out for your retarded comment
7. you seemed to think your reference to blue's post was something new
8. I let you know I had already read his post and said my piece
9. now, your most recent post, has nothing to do with anything and basically takes us back to #1. I don't care to repeat the cycle. So you go on believing that Sarah Palin believes our leaders were physically visited by God (in some White House meeting no doubt) and that he told them they should invade Iraq. Because it was just totally coincidental that Saddam Hussein decided to defy UN regulations and allow weapons inspectors in for the five years previous.

I would love to continue to debate the topic if you found some new angle to view her statement at. Rehashing the same shit over and over gets boring.


#5: In case you missed it, I am the original poster.

I now see the problem: You have made a whole lot of assumptions, of which are wrong. Your very first assumption is that you think, that I think, she thinks, that God came down, yadda yadda yadda. Personally, I don't care what she thinks. My beef with her is not what she thinks. My beef with her is what she said. Using religion to justify the acts of man is down right insulting. And you can try to spin it however you want (which isn't working on anyone but yourself), but she did in fact, 100%, use God to justify the actions of our leaders. Whether those actions are right or wrong is irrelevant. If she actually believes the things she has said, now that is just crazy. And I honestly feel that our government has enough crazies.

Also, I do hope you realize the irony of #9. Talking about Saddam Hussein's weapons has absolutely nothing to do with Sarah Palin's quote. This is not a topic about the war in Iraq. This has little to do with the war in Iraq. This is about Sarah Palin's character. Sigh. Idiot.


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post Sep 9 2008, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE (Billy @ Sep 9 2008, 08:06 AM) *
#5: In case you missed it, I am the original poster.

Where in #5 did I say or even imply that you're not the OP? OP = original post not original poster

QUOTE (Billy @ Sep 9 2008, 08:06 AM) *
I now see the problem: You have made a whole lot of assumptions, of which are wrong. Your very first assumption is that you think, that I think, she thinks, that God came down, yadda yadda yadda.

I didn't assume anything, I read it directly from your post:
QUOTE (Billy @ Sep 5 2008, 10:24 PM)
Because last I checked, a divine being has yet to visit me and tell me he wants me to invade another country. I am highly skeptical of those who claim they've had a different experience.


QUOTE (Billy @ Sep 9 2008, 08:06 AM) *
Personally, I don't care what she thinks.

You don't? :
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I cannot, with any sense of morality and what is right, support the empowering of a religious nut.

Sounds to me like you care a great deal. And if you didn't have a problem with what she thinks, only what she said, then why would you pin her as a religious nut?

QUOTE ( @ Sep 9 2008, 08:06 AM) *
My beef with her is not what she thinks. My beef with her is what she said. Using religion to justify the acts of man is down right insulting. And you can try to spin it however you want (which isn't working on anyone but yourself), but she did in fact, 100%, use God to justify the actions of our leaders. Whether those actions are right or wrong is irrelevant. If she actually believes the things she has said, now that is just crazy. And I honestly feel that our government has enough crazies.

But your beef is based on your misunderstanding of what she said.

QUOTE (Billy @ Sep 9 2008, 08:06 AM) *
Also, I do hope you realize the irony of #9. Talking about Saddam Hussein's weapons has absolutely nothing to do with Sarah Palin's quote. This is not a topic about the war in Iraq. This has little to do with the war in Iraq. This is about Sarah Palin's character.

1. How does saying something that (in your opinion) has absolutely nothing to do with the quote = irony? Or were you just looking for buzzwords to toss in to make yourself feel smarter?
2. It has everything to do with her quote because it's the reason we went there. Sarah Palin knows that and doesn't think it was due to a divine entity's visit. She believes it was the right thing to do and that it was God's will. But believing that an action is doing God's will doesn't mean or even imply that a divine visit is what pre-empted that action. See the difference?

QUOTE (Billy @ Sep 9 2008, 08:06 AM) *
Sigh. Idiot.

Oooh man what a great comeback! I hope your boy Obama uses that one when he debates (if he will ever accept a debate).
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- Billy   Sarah Palin:   Sep 5 2008, 12:01 PM
- - impala454   Yeah? People who believe in God usually also beli...   Sep 5 2008, 12:43 PM
|- - Watchman   QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 5 2008, 01:43 PM) ...   Sep 5 2008, 12:43 PM
- - impala454   haha, no it's not   Sep 5 2008, 12:45 PM
- - Epic   "sending them out on a task that is from God...   Sep 5 2008, 01:15 PM
- - Spectatrix   Billy, I was under the impression that you were a ...   Sep 5 2008, 01:17 PM
|- - Billy   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Sep 5 2008, 02:17 PM)...   Sep 5 2008, 05:26 PM
- - woody   QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 5 2008, 12:45 PM) ...   Sep 5 2008, 01:47 PM
- - Mommy   if she believes in fate, then what happened is in ...   Sep 5 2008, 04:24 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Mommy @ Sep 5 2008, 05:24 PM) if s...   Sep 5 2008, 04:27 PM
|- - Mommy   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Sep 5 2008, 04:27 PM) ...   Sep 5 2008, 04:29 PM
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- - Mommy   His mother is 96 years old. The way I see it is an...   Sep 5 2008, 05:08 PM
- - woody   QUOTE (Mommy @ Sep 5 2008, 04:24 PM) if s...   Sep 5 2008, 05:43 PM
- - pysex   sometimes it's hard to believe there's a h...   Sep 5 2008, 06:07 PM
|- - Billy   QUOTE (pysex @ Sep 5 2008, 07:07 PM) some...   Sep 5 2008, 09:24 PM
|- - pysex   QUOTE (Billy @ Sep 5 2008, 10:24 PM) I ha...   Sep 7 2008, 08:07 AM
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|- - impala454   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Sep 7 2008, 01:46 PM)...   Sep 7 2008, 07:10 PM
- - chook   I could see a just argument but not a divine argum...   Sep 5 2008, 10:29 PM
- - impala454   QUOTE (Billy @ Sep 5 2008, 10:24 PM) I ag...   Sep 5 2008, 10:34 PM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 5 2008, 11:34 PM) ...   Sep 6 2008, 12:26 AM
|- - Billy   QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 5 2008, 11:34 PM) ...   Sep 7 2008, 10:03 AM
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